random picture thread....

[joefromthegarage]

https://4w.pub/male-wins-female-leaders ... m-council/

[Eight Bit Alien]

we're not going to make it

[joefromthegarage]

Emilia Decaudin, a man, has won the Female District Leader position for New York City's 37A district, which resides in Queens. Last year, Decaudin successfully petitioned to eliminate the sex parity rule in New York Democratic Leadership Council roles—a rule which was put in place by feminists to ensure women's fair and equal participation in the democratic process.

Decaudin, who identifies as transgender and non-binary, defeated Deirdre Feerick, a woman, for the female position by a margin of about 5.5 points. Feerick was an experienced politician who enjoyed the endorsement of the Queens Democratic Party."

[Stink Pig]

broken head

[featherboa]

what's your point joefromthegarage

[Stink Pig]

read the first sentence. that’s the point.

[featherboa]

What does it mean to you stinkpig

[cxwx]

What does it mean to you stinkpig

Can’t you see how all this postmodernism is hurting our culture just as much as 150,000 people dying from a disease because we didn’t want to lower the value of the stock market? Obviously you’re just as bad as meatgrease!!!!!

[joefromthegarage]

what's your point joefromthegarage

I think it's noteworthy that a 20 year old just got elected to public office and is calling himself a woman while having a man's general appearance and forcing everyone to look at his balls.


You don't think it's mildly interesting?

[THE KILL]

Yeah I'm not enjoying that bulge at all...

[Stink Pig]

an ex of mine was friends with a few trans people. they would sit around our place and just constantly bitch about men (while being men themselves) and complain to my ex loudly about the music I was listening to. as time passed, I noticed that any trans moron I encountered acted just like that. loud, annoying and stupid as fuck. no problem with gays at all, it’s just trans douchebags I can’t tolerate. their heads are broken and it’s not my fault. you’re not what you think you are, you’re a man in a dress and you need professional help. that freak in the photo is no different.

[Geeheeb]

wow you should have been in that election

[spacehamster]

What was that like... on weed?

[THE KILL]

I used to be in the "not really interested, dress and feel any way you want, it's none of my business"-camp, but recently the more traditional feminists' observation, that it's incredibly easy to simply decide you've always been a woman when in your life before your realisation you haven't had to deal with all the shit women have to deal with on a daily basis, well that has to be taken into consideration as well. The guy above can fuck off just on the basis of his obnoxious tweet and the fact that, as Joe has pointed out, makes me look at his shitty dick ("girldick"? are you retarded, mate?).

[spacehamster]

I don't find it particularly difficult to parse the idea that biological sex is largely binary and gender as a part of one's social identity more or less exists on a spectrum. Where I really have to check out is when people claim that biological sex is "not real", but whenever I watch any of these arguments play out, it looks to me like 90% of the problem is that our language doesn't reflect the distinction between sex and gender and so people are screaming at each other because nobody agrees what words mean anymore.

[Eight Bit Alien]

people are screaming at each other because nobody agrees what words mean anymore.

This is true in so many arenas that I think we're going to choke to death before we get our shit together.

[MPD]

I used to be in the "not really interested, dress and feel any way you want, it's none of my business"-camp, but recently the more traditional feminists' observation, that it's incredibly easy to simply decide you've always been a woman when in your life before your realisation you haven't had to deal with all the shit women have to deal with on a daily basis, well that has to be taken into consideration as well. The guy above can fuck off just on the basis of his obnoxious tweet and the fact that, as Joe has pointed out, makes me look at his shitty dick ("girldick"? are you retarded, mate?).

[Stink Pig]

wow you should have been in that election

okay

[Geeheeb]

exactly zero of my trans friends (grand total of 3) are using their transition to "bump the line" as is kind of being implied above.

[Eight Bit Alien]

And it should never be implied that anything like that is endemic to their community.

[THE KILL]

exactly zero of my trans friends (grand total of 3) are using their transition to "bump the line" as is kind of being implied above.

Sorry mate, but what does "bumping the line" mean in this context?

The two trans people I know or that I have met in real life are/ were...
1. a mate of the wife who is a really nice guy basically but has suffered from mental illness and all kinds of hardships all his life. One day he decided he was a woman really, everybody tried to be as accepting as possible but especially our female friends were struggling since he usually displayed what we perceived as very male behaviour in social situations (mocking and shit-talking other players during a game, talking over other people, the kind of macho grandstanding guys tend to "ironically" display etc.).
2. some dude who turned up in the boardgame shop I like to hang out with. He was just a scrawny guy in a dress, but he asked people to refer to him/ her as "she". The only problem I had with the lady or whatever was that (s)he had really bad body odour due to living in a squat. My personal line is crossed when somebody forces me to inhale their stench, so fuck that asshole.

I don't want to give you the impression that I am trying to invalidate your argument, I'm not making any generalized statements about trans people. I'm sure the rate of assholes to good people is just as high/ low in the trans community as in every other demographic.

Referring to what Spacehamster has said, I don't think that the fact that people are confused about words (although that certainly plays a role) is what all the arguing is about. My guess is that in most societies, social norms that are tied to sexual identity are rather strict, and a failure to conform to these norms is sanctioned rather harshly (depending on which milieu somebody belongs to). Also, since the 1960s, many conservative core norms have been challenged by progressive movements (and I'm using the term neutrally here), and this results in a feeling of insecurity among those social groups who have, on the average, not benefitted from this process of advancing individualisation. This is the reason that people talk about "the good old times", when in reality, almost everything (crime, drugs including alcohol, violent deaths, a lack of individual freedom) was considerably worse fifty years ago.

[Toilet Fleet]

I don't think it's too challenging folks

Drawing a line of gender signifiers to determine when it's okay for a person to claim their gender accomplishes nothing apart from putting literally every person under a constant microscope of gender signal interpretation—weaponizing the very same gender spectrum that binary essentialists claim to disavow

[Necrophilic Mallard]

I don't think it's too challenging folks

Drawing a line of gender signifiers to determine when it's okay for a person to claim their gender accomplishes nothing apart from putting literally every person under a constant microscope of gender signal interpretation—weaponizing the very same gender spectrum that binary essentialists claim to disavow

it's simple for a "binary essentialist":
Your gender is determined by your sex. Signifiers would only apply to those that are inter-sex.
So who does this?

[kevin hash]

Emilia Decaudin, a man, has won the Female District Leader position for New York City's 37A district, which resides in Queens. Last year, Decaudin successfully petitioned to eliminate the sex parity rule in New York Democratic Leadership Council roles—a rule which was put in place by feminists to ensure women's fair and equal participation in the democratic process.

Decaudin, who identifies as transgender and non-binary, defeated Deirdre Feerick, a woman, for the female position by a margin of about 5.5 points. Feerick was an experienced politician who enjoyed the endorsement of the Queens Democratic Party."

Love that sweet lil peepee poking out.

Cum2020

[Toilet Fleet]

I don't think it's too challenging folks

Drawing a line of gender signifiers to determine when it's okay for a person to claim their gender accomplishes nothing apart from putting literally every person under a constant microscope of gender signal interpretation—weaponizing the very same gender spectrum that binary essentialists claim to disavow

it's simple for a "binary essentialist":
Your gender is determined by your sex. Signifiers would only apply to those that are inter-sex.
So who does this?

But that’s it: there is no necessary relationship between chromosomal sex and gender signifiers. Some people will have physical appearances that diverge wildly from what we call gender norms of their genetic sex chromosomes, and where does that leave us? On no firmer footing than those doing all the hand-wringing would have you believe.