Irrelevant what the sex act is. If you can come from tittyfucking another man, you're gay. If you can come from fucking another man or getting fucked by another man, you're gay. If you can come from getting a handjob or blowjob from another man, you're gay. If you don't orgasm, you're in the clear.LolaFaun wrote:This isn't anal we're talking about, it's tittyfucking.
I think you misread what I meant. It's not gay until you come means it's undetermined until orgasm is achieved. So, those dudes aren't gay. Forced bisexuality is not a matter of basic sexual orientation but a fetish of sorts - the idea of biological sex itself isn't the primary driver of sexual desire anymore. Homosexuality already implies binary sexual orientation system in vernacular use and removes sexual connotations of non-personal stimuli. The orgasm determines whether you are even attracted to men, women, objects, fetishes, etc.LolaFaun wrote:And anyway I know TONS of guys who are into "forced bi" as humiliation, so what if they suck a cock until they're jizzed on/in mouth, but don't cum until a woman intervenes in some way, or jerk themselves off? I mean, they just sucked cock, that's not even the "pitching" that's the "catching". But it didn't make them cum, and there's probably plenty of completely homo-gays that won't get off from giving a beej unless they jerk themselves off too, during.
Women could be a bit different I suppose because you could always fire up a Hitachi Magic Wand on a clit and get an orgasm reliably with no concern for who's doing the stimulation or whether it's even under duress. It is possible, after all, for a woman to orgasm during rape.
Attraction to people your own gender is unclear by your own definition of binary genders. Defining it down to the basis of whether you can orgasm when stimulated by something is the benchmark, that's all. Some people have no idea they're homosexual, repress it, and so forth into something like sublimination, so "attraction" isn't correct either (see: all those gay Republicans).Mari Mar wrote:I'm more than positive that in order to be gay you need to be sexually attracted to people that are your same gender. Since there are many characteristics that make up the binary genders (female and male) it takes more than genitalia to make someone gay.