who here owns the least physical music?

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Sorry Ross, I know threads are important, serious business but I'm not counting all that shit.
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I've had an mp3 player for about a year now and its fucking awesome not dragging CDs around with me anymore, I've downloaded tons of shit and its actually made me buy more CDs than I planned on. I'm still trying to catch up with all the shit I'd like to own. I got a box of shame up stairs with lots of fucking worthless CDs, mainly damn near every metal/grind/crust album from 1999-2004, a bunch of fucking garbage.
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Necrometer wrote:Hahaha, awesomely stupid premise you've got there. Especially for digitally-recorded music that's been pressed to vinyl --> a lithograph of a web GIF?
not the point, the point is that any dumbass with a computer can make cd's therefore cd's are valueless.
Throughout this thread you've pretty much earned more :drooly: s than anyone I have ever seen.......
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Vinyl has no distinguished spine. I don't get the vast array of colors and fonts on my shelf.
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I have a few hundred pieces of vinyl, most of which I couldn't get on CD. I woulda got those on CD if I could have.
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Brian P. wrote:Sorry Ross, I know threads are important, serious business but I'm not counting all that shit.
I think you would have to have 1 or 0 CDs to win this thread... I believe your mind could get some pleasure from counting to either of those numbers... consciously.
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I don't own much music, maybe 200 CDs? Especially nowadays, I won't buy a CD unless I'm convinced it's something brilliant and that I'll continue to enjoy it in a regular basis in the future. Up until maybe five or six years ago, I'd buy albums because I liked one song on it or because I heard about it thirdhand or something (or just because I wanted new music NOW and couldn't be arsed to wait until I could find something better), and then listen to it twice before selling it for pennies.

Now I wait until I spend an entire weekend finding myself obsessed with an album, at which point I'll usually seek out the artist's website (or at least their label) and throw money at whatever they have for sale. CDs, T-shirts, blowjobs, whatever. This method has yet to steer me wrong.

as far as MP3s go, I miss the good old days of eMusic, where spending $10 a month meant unlimited downloading of whatever they had up. Sure, it was all a bunch of borderline-unlistenable and militantly indie artfag music at that point (Kill Rock Stars, Troubleman, etc.) but it was fucking brilliant.
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DeadWalrus wrote:in short, diamonds are also essentially worthless, or more accurately vastly over-inflated in value since they can be manufactured to be nearly indistinguishable from natural diamonds and can be produced flawlessly. that's actually one of the methods to determine if it is manufactured and, ironically, it's what is most sought after in natural stones. also, natural diamonds are over-mined, but prices are kept high by a combination of artificial scarcity and marketing (two months salary! she's worth it, right fellas?). then there's the wars and exploitation... so basically FUCK DIAMONDS cubic zirconia supremacy.
Can you relay that to a vinyl analogy, I'm not sure the vinyl guys could hear it over the floor noise and pops.
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I'm half with you, but I'm not sure why you're defending vinyl. It's just as useless.
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Gookstorm wrote:
Can you relay that to a vinyl analogy, I'm not sure the vinyl guys could hear it over the floor noise and pops.[/quote]

How about a car analogy; Using vinyl to reproduce music is like driving around in a Model T when it's possible to just teleport with your mind.
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I'm glad that I'm not the only one who can finally see what a petulant zero DeadWalrus is thanks to his asinine arguments in this thread. The main issue that's being overlooked here is that burned CD-Rs are constructed differently than pro-CDs: CD-Rs use a dye that gets imprinted to store information rather than the polycarbonate layer that features pits of information (even though they're really bumps) that are used to illuminate the disk for reading. Consequently, CD-Rs are easier to deteriorate or lose data. Additionally, this "reproducibility" argument also relies on the assumption that everyone who can listen to a CD will have the means of reproducing high-quality CDs and artwork, despite issues such as image resolutions, bit rate, hardware limitations, CD-label printing and alternative packaging. Overall, you're better off owning official CDs. They aren't "worthless."

I might as well add in that the tongue-in-cheek "cubic zirconium supremacy" argument is parallel to any argument in favor of posing.
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Idget Child wrote:Additionally, this "reproducibility" argument also relies on the assumption that everyone who can listen to a CD will have the means of reproducing high-quality CD
Only one person has to make a perfect copy which can then be transmitted to anyone for free via Internet
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noah thirteen wrote:Throughout this thread you've pretty much earned more :drooly: s than anyone I have ever seen.......
tell me why physically owning a cd is better than an mp3
neckbeard wrote:I'm half with you, but I'm not sure why you're defending vinyl. It's just as useless.


if all you care about the musical content, you are right. if you care about "physically owning the music" it's the only medium that makes any sense at all
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neckbeard wrote:
Idget Child wrote:Additionally, this "reproducibility" argument also relies on the assumption that everyone who can listen to a CD will have the means of reproducing high-quality CD
Only one person has to make a perfect copy which can then be transmitted to anyone for free via Internet
Of course, but that depends on what's being copied (i.e., a Lady Gaga album versus some second or third-tier death metal band with a much more limited fanbase or proportional capability of getting a good copy of their music released digitally) and the ability to get that copy onto your computer. There are definitely enough files on the whole internet to find these perfect copies, but it's still only one part of the ability to physically reproduce an album if you're going to juxtapose this reproducibility with the ability to reproduce all of the components of vinyl and its packaging.
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neckbeard wrote:
Gookstorm wrote:
Can you relay that to a vinyl analogy, I'm not sure the vinyl guys could hear it over the floor noise and pops.
How about a car analogy; Using vinyl to reproduce music is like driving around in a Model T when it's possible to just teleport with your mind.[/quote]


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DeadWalrus wrote:tell me why physically owning a cd is better than an mp3
mp3 sucks, use FLAC or something lossless so you can transcode to different storage requirements on the fly.
Idget Child wrote:The main issue that's being overlooked here is that burned CD-Rs are constructed differently than pro-CDs
No, that's not an issue at all here. I think you've overthought this one out and assumed a awareness level of the original comment. It has to do with means of manufacture for a congruent / identical product. For most people, an mp3 is functionally equivalent to a CD and far more convenient, so it wins. For a tiny minority, they value the properties associated with physical media as much, if not higher, than the actual music itself. It's an addiction similar to how people addicted to sodas and burgers have a dining "experience" that consists of many subtle associated elements - wake the fuck up and realize what you actually like, people. I don't need to pay $5k+ / yr to smell shit I like to smell. Go to Yankee Candle Company and ask them to make a vinyl smelling line of candles or something, wtf. Go to a visual art exposition if you like seeing cool shit.

It's really weird, book nerds have always had the mantra about not judging a book by its cover while the music nerds seem to be about how important the cover is to the media. Talk about double standards...
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DeadWalrus wrote:
noah thirteen wrote:Throughout this thread you've pretty much earned more :drooly: s than anyone I have ever seen.......
tell me why physically owning a cd is better than an mp3
Uncompressed sound quality? Artwork? Liner notes? Supporting the artist/label? What the fuck are you going on about?
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A little booklet with some shit I haven't read since high school is not worth $12. Records are at least a more tactile experience; you don't just put on a 7" and then do whatever for a few hours. I have much easier time buying books than music or movies, but I still feel like a moron doing so.
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noah thirteen wrote:
DeadWalrus wrote:
noah thirteen wrote:Throughout this thread you've pretty much earned more :drooly: s than anyone I have ever seen.......
tell me why physically owning a cd is better than an mp3
Uncompressed sound quality? Artwork? Liner notes? Supporting the artist/label? What the fuck are you going on about?
Stop trying to argue with him. I don't think he's going to get it.





As for me, I own a handful of CDs, LPs and EPs. I would probably own more if I had a real job and weren't fucking poor. Most of my music comes from my brother which he physically owns and I now have on my hard drive.
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Friendly Goatus wrote:I didn't have any tortillas before I took the ambien, Noah. I'm a sharp cookie. I know things.
Just imagine a giant cookie buying tortillas on a shit load of ambien.....
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father of lies wrote:A little booklet with some shit I haven't read since high school is not worth $12. Records are at least a more tactile experience; you don't just put on a 7" and then do whatever for a few hours. I have much easier time buying books than music or movies, but I still feel like a moron doing so.
Don't you enjoy reveling in that shit from high school every so often? Whenever I do put on one of my CDs or records, I'm usually looking through the inserts the whole time. It adds something to the music. It makes it more...personal. For me, at least.
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Friendly Goatus wrote:I didn't have any tortillas before I took the ambien, Noah. I'm a sharp cookie. I know things.
Just imagine a giant cookie buying tortillas on a shit load of ambien.....
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noah thirteen wrote:Throughout this thread you've pretty much earned more :drooly: s than anyone I have ever seen.......
tell me why physically owning a cd is better than an mp3
neckbeard wrote:I'm half with you, but I'm not sure why you're defending vinyl. It's just as useless.


if all you care about the musical content, you are right. if you care about "physically owning the music" it's the only medium that makes any sense at all

Owning a cd is better than an mp3 because you're getting everything the artist intended for you to hear as well as see.

I went through my records a few weeks ago. It made me feel all nostalgic. Like, hey I remember where I got this, what show or store I was at and who I was there with.

Right now I am listening to wounded kings. I was probably on the shitter browsing for new bands on my Iphone and I came across these guys. Once I finished wiping the doodoo from my ass I probably got on soulseek.

I see your side though, too. Mp3's are more portable. Fuck man. I don't really care about this shit. I'm just really stoned. I need a cig. later.
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I own a shitload of cd's that I keep mostly boxed away. I own vinyl too. Some albums I opt for CDs and some I opt for vinyl. It depends on the band. And I have a shitload of mp3s for convenience sake. All kinds of bitrates too because I just don't give a fuck.
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