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Yeah, I know...maybe reaching 5-10 people, but I take it for granted that a lot of outsiders also read this board.

http://books.google.com/books?id=NGxSni ... q=&f=false

This is labeled a "preview" but as far as I can tell the whole book is there.

The torrent for this older translation is also there, there was a new edition of it published recently...please go to your local bookstore and order it...but here it is on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Aesthetic-Theory- ... 535&sr=1-1

It's really difficult for me to take any artist seriously who hasn't read this...

Bored, Esq. wrote: It's really difficult for me to take any artist seriously who hasn't read this...

god you are on a fucking roll today

damn, i wish i had the patience and smarts to sit thorugh an adorno book. i own his "aesthetics of new music" book (or a similar title, i'm too lazy to get up and have a look), but each time i tried, i gave it up again after a few pages.
i just read a review of a collection of some of his aesthetics writings/ lectures, which were recently released in german. it sounded mighty interesting.

btw. i did saw quite a few pages missing towards the end, in the google link.

Bum Wing has terrible emotional problems so I usually ignore his posts, but it's important to me that other artists/musicians read this work and react to it...esp. the few artists here who matter.

hahahahahahaha

calling me bum wing isnt nearly as exasperatingly stupid as saying you can't take artists seriously unless they've read adorno you fucking girly autast. but i mean you're getting there; let's skip to where youre going to call me robert or mpd

besides if you're that injured by me busting your balls you can always resort to your withering PM style that simply melts all minds.

my god am i glad i opened this thread

So is fallbacktostone bum wing or not? I'm confused now.

I give up.

Phritz wrote:damn, i wish i had the patience and smarts to sit thorugh an adorno book. i own his "aesthetics of new music" book (or a similar title, i'm too lazy to get up and have a look), but each time i tried, i gave it up again after a few pages.
i just read a review of a collection of some of his aesthetics writings/ lectures, which were recently released in german. it sounded mighty interesting.

btw. i did saw quite a few pages missing towards the end, in the google link.

Adorno...never meant his writing to be easy. He goes out of his way to make it difficult to read, translate, etc. a lot like Benjamin, because they hated the entire idea of art that was "easy to get through" RE: the later change in popular fiction, etc. Modernist to the core, like Joyce. But that's not important. What IS important is actually taking them up and going through their works...because it's worth it, IMO, and one page of Adorno is "worth" 1000 pages of so many writers who came after him, esp. after philosophy was taken over by academics. If you like Nietzsche, for example, I think you would love his Minima Moralia:

http://www.amazon.com/Minima-Moralia-Re ... 660&sr=1-1

If that google link is missing a few pages then I want to emphasize buying that book OR if you're totally poor d/ling the last translation of it through a torrent...I'm speaking to all the people who read this board, of course, not just the posters here.

If fallbacktostone isn't Bum Wing then I of course apologize. I always thought he was and it was difficult to take him seriously because I remember how his entire life was ruined when some stupid girl broke up with him and he couldn't get over it, how he begged Johnlapse to ban him from the old RBB because he couldn't stop posting, etc. He's like MPD without the intelligence or cool guy behind the board pose, which is going to be horribly ironic (in just one sense) if he's actually MPD. It's hard to care about these things these days.

Three different dudes, dude.

I've always had a sort of passive interest in the Frankfurt school, but I've never had to read them so I'm still pretty ignorant except for some essential Benjamin stuff. I've never read Adorno and/or Horkheimer, who has always interested me more. I read the Dialectical Imagination by Martin Jay, which I remember being very good, but there was so much information in it that I ended up not retaining any of it.

(from an "outsider")
(to whichever "bored" persona happens to be posting today)
(of all people to engage in handwringing posts about taking things seriously)

I like to read comments on theorists and philosophy, but

your posting style can be such a drag to read.

just a minor observation, but
why not learn how to write more posts without your little trademark pauses, points of ellipsis, aposiopesis, etc.

it would really help me take you more seriously as a poster.

I know: you give up, have such a hard time caring. I suppose it's very adorno of you to seem to want so badly to engage in intelligent discussion, and yet start the conversation with such off-putting style and mannerisms

oh my god

it wasn't like i was even trying to turn this into a crucifixion people. poor bored..

I've never read any Adorno, but I'm interested now.

This thread ...

Adorno was cool peeps! he was a virgo but hung out with aquarius'! here he is pictured with aquarius sociologist Max Horkheimer



(L-Horkheimer, R-Adorno)

not taking n e thing away from them, but according to most ppl i talk to the genital consensus is Chicago School>Frankfurt school

I find it hard to take you seriously

Adorno... aesthetica... ergo, prosciutto.

hahahahahaha I'm so glad this thread didn't get purged and reminded me to let everyone know that I can't take them seriously as an artist if they haven't read Adorno

I hit all the strings over and over for 7 minutes... magnifico.... ergo, existential.

Eureka!

Brown Jenkin!

Derrida is a pretty broad

fallbacktostone wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:38 pm

Bored, Esq. wrote: It's really difficult for me to take any artist seriously who hasn't read this...

god you are on a fucking roll today

fucking umesh