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Re: special james thread

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:41 pm
by Necrometer
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Re: special james thread

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:20 am
by guardianoftheblind

Re: special james thread

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:59 pm
by Wormholegenerator
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Re: special james thread

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:56 pm
by guardianoftheblind
hey jame what do you think of this guys story telling skillz


Re: special james thread

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:11 am
by FVBTVS
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Re: special james thread

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:51 pm
by guardianoftheblind
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Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:06 pm
by guardianoftheblind

Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:11 pm
by james
guardianoftheblind wrote:hey jame what do you think of this guys story telling skillz
I would totally play that game.

WiiU will learn game - nobody in the game comes out of the womb with game skills, you learn game skills because you want shit but don't have it yet. Hungry dogs keep sniffy on the streets, wet noses wiggle to learn the scent. PS3 been eating long enough now. Ribs is touching wait not advised. Fuck around getbit. Platesnatch3

Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:20 pm
by james
Wicked Klown Kop is a new breed of law for the grim future street. WC gesture streamlined to single-hand technique. Shows advanced and deadly level of ninja skill. Mixtape forthcoming. Pen for writing down license plates of hot sluts. Fuckin justice how does that work. Magnet9

Re: special james thread

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:03 am
by ghost boner
hey james one time this terrible band opened up for enslaved and the stupid singer who sucks was all "this next song goes out to--" and was immediately cut off by my awesome friend yelling "THE WICKED CLOWNS" and they just looked all sad and started the song that was gay. whatever asshole that shout out was going to got screwed. it really was a life changing moment for me and i felt i should share it with you.

Re: special james thread

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:49 am
by guardianoftheblind
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Re: special james thread

Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 2:45 pm
by james
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I have been sitting at my computer slowly shaving all the yellow off a lemon for a while. It's basically mummified now and I think it is immortal. This is a picture of it nesting in $2000 because he's a rich lemon. I'm jame

Re: special james thread

Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 2:58 pm
by The Bill
I don't trust any damn lemon with that much cash. No, sir. No way.

Re: special james thread

Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:30 pm
by The Bill
Pisscubes wrote:My hemorrhoids don't like this lemon.
That's the second biggest shaved lemon surrounded by money I've ever seen!

Re: special james thread

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:03 pm
by guardianoftheblind
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Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:37 pm
by The Bill
James, is it murder to kill a cyborg if their mind is completely run by software? Is it murder to kill a robot that has evolved to think like a person? James! James, is it murder if a robot kills a person?

Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:30 pm
by Raw Ting
guardianoftheblind wrote:Image

that's horse shit. there's been multiple times alfred has been kidnapped etc. :betternotstartanyshit:

Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:39 pm
by james
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Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:40 pm
by james
The Bill wrote:James, is it murder to kill a cyborg if their mind is completely run by software? Is it murder to kill a robot that has evolved to think like a person? James! James, is it murder if a robot kills a person?

I've never found a working definition for either life or consciousness that I think is satisfactory, so it is a pretty unanswerable question really - but whatever life is, I do not believe that it could be brought about intentionally via machinery.

If life came about on this planet through abiogenesis then I suppose it would be possible to recreate the necessary conditions artificially.

I don't believe it could ever be proven that life can be created abiogenically, though - any experiment proving abogenesis would be conducted by human beings, and therefore would not be abiogenic. It undermines itself

Throwing all that away though I absolutely do believe that human beings have free will and can craft genuinely new things/thoughts in the universe which are not the result of predetermined fatal input - and although I am terrible at math I think that it is probably impossible to use software to create anything like that, since (at least at the present) it all revolves entirely around limited computation of already-existent input...

so basically no matter how convincingly you make a hard drive scream 'no no do not disassemble i am alive please i love my dog' it will never really be murder to put it through a band saw

and I don't think a machine killing a person is murder.... cyborgs don't kill people, people programming cyborgs kill people

I think it is all really pretty well put out in Frankenstein, although I disagree with all the romantic anti-hubris stuff that the story is actually trying to push.

also nobody I talk to ever thinks that a genetically engineered brain in a vat would count as artificial intelligence which I think is dumb.... why's it gotta be an r2d2 to count eh???



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Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:48 pm
by james
I think that this is sort of the entire point of Terminator 2... John spends the entire time desperately trying to make the robot human, and at the end the robot sorta proves that he is not... "I know now why you cry, but it is something I can never do" is not just a cool line.

The entire movie is about the reality of free will I believe, although it requires time travel to really make its argument, I think it is trying to disprove determinism via robot bullets. The robot has no soul and cannot alter its own destiny (programmed to destroy itself), although Sarah remains hopeful that she can.

Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 4:58 pm
by The Bill
Excellent! Most excellent!

I offer the theory, of positive thinking. A machine cannot do this because a machine can be programmed to act positive, yet it can never believe in it. Yet, why? A bunch of I's and O's.

Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:51 pm
by riley-o
James, no mention of self-awareness ? It's of course not necessarily an essential element of life but anything capable of being self-aware would necessarily be alive.. I think ?

It doesn't seem that far-fetched to me that a self-aware computer could somehow come into existence. Anything self-aware is capable of making conscious choices; therefore an argument, a solid one, could be made that the only real murder is a self-aware being taking the life of another self-aware being. I think by that definition, if "a robot has evolved to think like a person", which I'm assuming includes making conscious choices, it would be murder to end their existence.

Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:44 pm
by james
I think that self-awareness is a function of metacognition, which can't result from any programming that I have ever heard of or could really conceive of...

Cognito ergo sum has to come after cognito, which can't arise from 1010101010xanything ever

Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:01 pm
by james
Dibs on the supervillain name Cognito

Re: special james thread

Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:03 pm
by Necrometer
james wrote:but whatever life is, I do not believe that it could be brought about intentionally via machinery.
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