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a girl i know just died of cancer over the weekend and one of her exboyfriends posted on facebook about how sad he was and also mentioned very clearly that she was the only girl to ever break his heart.. :fp:

and they broke up like 5 years ago. and people are replying "sory for your lost" on his post

and he tagged her

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sorry..

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As someone who more or less considers himself a feminist, this is getting a little ridiculous...

https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355

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https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainme ... ri/550541/
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hahaha no man c'mon, aziz ansari has all the power..

the wily and all powerful sexual predator aziz ansari

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Me and the wife got in a heated argument about it last night (she brought it up). I couldn't help bringing up it was one anonymous white woman fresh out of college speaking out against a rich and popular man of color, and 17 brought it up against the person who made it to the white house. She did not like that...
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hipster holocaust wrote:
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As someone who more or less considers himself a feminist, this is getting a little ridiculous...

https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355

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https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainme ... ri/550541/
this is the absolute worst because

yes, people should read this and learn from it and be sympathetic to the woman's plight

no, a guy acting like that (including his texted, apparently sincere apology) doesn't need jail time or a terminated career

but instead we get insanely polarized internet arguing where people are claiming that a "forceful" kiss is a "forced" kiss and thus sexual assault ... more of that awesome joke about having someone sign dozens of consent contracts during foreplay / "may I thrust again"

I hate it.

I guess "babe" is ultimately funded by murdoch so some are claiming it's a deliberate derail

I feel like the "I didn't get to choose my wine" thing at the beginning says it all
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My other argument was this is fucking terrible for the cause since it's wandering into "the boy that cried wolf" territory. The more it happens, the more desensitized society becomes, and eventually even the most bleeding heart people may just end up not giving a fuck altogether out of emotional exhaustion when the more serious shit gets reported.
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I officially authorize mikehamster to post at will...
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I wish this incident would spark a discussion focused on how women opportunistically try to attach themselves to fame and power, which is the elephant in the room of the #MeToo movement. But we all know that will never happen.

Also, pretty shitty of this anonymous woman to use Guy A (who took her to the party) to branch swing to Guy B (the famous guy, Aziz Ansari). Shameless, hurtful behavior that is completely excused by our society.
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Necrometer wrote:
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I officially authorize mikehamster to post at will...
If we can agree now that this is a problem, I'll spare you the gloating. If that's what you meant.

I'm actually kind of hoping that this has now become so extreme that there will be a backlash (like the Atlantic article you posted) that forces the conversation back into reasonable territory. And it does look that way, there's a surprising amount of op-eds by women writers starting to spring up that are pointing out how this has gotten completely out of hand and not everyone who said something inappropriate within earshot of a woman once is Harvey Weinstein. We'll see.
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I guess you can gloat a bit :mrgreen:

I'm not celebrating the backlash because I do think Aziz acted like a douche and the counter-arguments are waaaay too victim blamey and "Aziz did nothing wrong!"

I do think it's bad form to put a chick's hand on your dick a zillion times despite her pulling it away, and respond to her proposal of "maybe let's not fuck 'til the second date" with "here's another glass of wine - now it's a second date". but bad form isn't sexual assault, and I wish just SOME of the hyper-feminist types would agree that he can be skeevy AND she can have the wherewithal to get the fuck out of there if she doesn't want to be whined into sucking his cock a few more times!?!?

I was a bit more panicked at first because it looked like the dude's career would be nuked over this, but it looks like there are no consequences (just like for trump?!) so I guess I don't have to worry about the poor horn-dog so much.
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You guys halfway get it when it comes to the female question so I'm not sure why bridging the gap to race is so hard but whatever, I spend pretty much zero time thinking about feminists. Watching spacehamster & Ross drop fedora-pills like :fp: :lol:

I am 100% pro #MeToo

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Most of those people are white but you hate black people.. ?
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Most of those people are white but you hate black people.. ?
GET READY FOR A BIG LAUGH :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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riley-o wrote:
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Most of those people are white but you hate black people.. ?
Are you for real with this?

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bad form isn't sexual assault
That's really what the backlash is about to me. It really, really needs to be possible to make that distinction without being accused of defending the kind of thing Ansari apparently did. And it's nice that that conversation's sort of happening, finally.

Here's another decent one:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/opin ... sment.html
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I am 100% pro #MeToo
No one wants your support on anything, you fucking runt.

The majority of sexual assailants in the entertainment industry are Jewish? The absolute shock of it all! I wonder what sexual assault stats would look like if they were taken from a sample that only included rural Arkansas or Juno. If Ross taught children, I bet he'd be willing to give you a lecture, that you'd no doubt blow spit bubbles through, on statistics.

I recall, a while back, when you said that you had an inbox full of crime stats and, I thought to myself, "This one here must be a real charmer at cocktail parties."
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Glub wrote:
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I am 100% pro #MeToo
No one wants your support on anything, you fucking runt.

The majority of sexual assailants in the entertainment industry are Jewish?
I hate to break it to everyone, but the majority of sexual assailants in Israel are also Jewish.
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