indomitable nth-wave feminism thread [RAPE CULTURE 101]

[FVBTVS]

I still watch this like once a month and quote random lines to nobody
this planet is wonderful and I'm happy about all the crazy people

[cxwx]

[cxwx]

[spacehamster]

I usually like her videos, but having the finer points of trans Twitter terminology explained to me for over one and a half hours makes me want to send Jordan Peterson a Patreon donation. Seriously, these fucking people and their constant goal post shifting.

[Eight Bit Alien]

She's been very inconsistent for about a year IMO. I still think she's brilliant, but something has changed... it seems much more narcissistic and self-serving these days, and I don't get the same sense of honesty and nuance that used to make her content worth watching.

I'm scared to watch this new one... pretty sure its just gonna make me mad.

[Necrometer]

the whole affair is walking a preposterously fine line - it's a wonder any of it ever worked at all, and imo zero surprise if/when it falls apart

THAT SAID...

just based on the topic (I ain't watched the vid and probably can't any time soon), is there a single case of someone being "canceled" where the consequences went beyond what was appropriate? james, that thing you shared about YA eating their young was probably the most convincing thing I've seen, which was refreshing if only because it explains some of the reactionary hand-wringing. but most of the famous cases are... fine. louis CK hasn't been unduly punished, and neither has aziz ansari. I haven't spent too much time on twitter, and that must color my thinking on this. a bunch of people saying "you are bad!" on the internet only has so much power. and if people are being bad, then yes the internet should absolutely say "you are bad", that's how social change happens. but I guess with everything being so polarized & herd-ified lately, maybe these two echo chambers (left and right) are going to open the portal that ends it all? can we cancel the portal by calling it bad on twitter?

[cxwx]

[spacehamster]

a bunch of people saying "you are bad!" on the internet only has so much power. and if people are being bad, then yes the internet should absolutely say "you are bad", that's how social change happens.

What bugs me about the Twitter mob - and I'm not saying this necessarily means it's an actual problem, just that it bugs me - is how there seem to be people who are only on there to look for things to get outraged about, and they'll join just about any outrage band wagon they can find, often with only the vaguest idea of what's actually going on. They just want to post whatever hashtag is popular that day so they can get retweets and likes, and typically you can tell 90% of them haven't seen whatever entertainment product is getting piled on for not being "inclusive" enough or whatever the grievance of the minute is.

A good example of this was the few weeks when Twitter said Sekiro was "ableist" because its difficulty made it impossible to beat for handicapped gamers. Some journalist posted and opinion piece about how he thought every game should have difficulty settings and tried to mount an argument about "accessibility" to make his point. Really just someone trying to meet his words quota on Forbes or wherever it was, but Twitter lost its shit because of the bad evil "ableist videogame", and most of the people who talked about it never played the game and didn't really give a shit about videogames otherwise. And then all the late-stage gamergaters came crawling out of the woodworks again to complain about "integrity in games journalism", and it went on for weeks for no reason, and literally none of the various things everyone was mad about had actually happened. Didn't have any effect on the game, though. And when it was named GOTY by a panel of mostly games journalists, the same neckbeards who make 2-hour Youtube videos about how you should never listen to games journalists all cheered.

I'm sorry, I'll stop now. I don't know why this fascinates me so much.

[MeatGrease]

a bunch of people saying "you are bad!" on the internet only has so much power. and if people are being bad, then yes the internet should absolutely say "you are bad", that's how social change happens.

What bugs me about the Twitter mob - and I'm not saying this necessarily means it's an actual problem, just that it bugs me - is how there seem to be people who are only on there to look for things to get outraged about, and they'll join just about any outrage band wagon they can find, often with only the vaguest idea of what's actually going on. They just want to post whatever hashtag is popular that day so they can get retweets and likes, and typically you can tell 90% of them haven't seen whatever entertainment product is getting piled on for not being "inclusive" enough or whatever the grievance of the minute is.

A good example of this was the few weeks when Twitter said Sekiro was "ableist" because its difficulty made it impossible to beat for handicapped gamers. Some journalist posted and opinion piece about how he thought every game should have difficulty settings and tried to mount an argument about "accessibility" to make his point. Really just someone trying to meet his words quota on Forbes or wherever it was, but Twitter lost its shit because of the bad evil "ableist videogame", and most of the people who talked about it never played the game and didn't really give a shit about videogames otherwise. And then all the late-stage gamergaters came crawling out of the woodworks again to complain about "integrity in games journalism", and it went on for weeks for no reason, and literally none of the various things everyone was mad about had actually happened. Didn't have any effect on the game, though. And when it was named GOTY by a panel of mostly games journalists, the same neckbeards who make 2-hour Youtube videos about how you should never listen to games journalists all cheered.

I'm sorry, I'll stop now. I don't know why this fascinates me so much.

You complain about people complaining way too much, motherfucker

I love how you think you are above whoever it is you're bitching about. You are not. If anything you're even worse because complaining about complaining is even more inane than whatever it was that was being complained about in the first place. Fuck man, you're middle aged and you literally complain about fucking YouTube. No wonder you can't get a date to save your life.

[spacehamster]

I love how you think you are above whoever it is you're bitching about. You are not. If anything you're even worse because complaining about complaining is even more inane than whatever it was that was being complained about in the first place. Fuck man, you're middle aged and you literally complain about fucking YouTube. No wonder you can't get a date to save your life.

Says the guy who's complaining about my complaining about complaining.

[FVBTVS]

literal white grievance inception

[cxwx]

a bunch of people saying "you are bad!" on the internet only has so much power. and if people are being bad, then yes the internet should absolutely say "you are bad", that's how social change happens.

What bugs me about the Twitter mob - and I'm not saying this necessarily means it's an actual problem, just that it bugs me - is how there seem to be people who are only on there to look for things to get outraged about, and they'll join just about any outrage band wagon they can find, often with only the vaguest idea of what's actually going on. They just want to post whatever hashtag is popular that day so they can get retweets and likes, and typically you can tell 90% of them haven't seen whatever entertainment product is getting piled on for not being "inclusive" enough or whatever the grievance of the minute is.

A good example of this was the few weeks when Twitter said Sekiro was "ableist" because its difficulty made it impossible to beat for handicapped gamers. Some journalist posted and opinion piece about how he thought every game should have difficulty settings and tried to mount an argument about "accessibility" to make his point. Really just someone trying to meet his words quota on Forbes or wherever it was, but Twitter lost its shit because of the bad evil "ableist videogame", and most of the people who talked about it never played the game and didn't really give a shit about videogames otherwise. And then all the late-stage gamergaters came crawling out of the woodworks again to complain about "integrity in games journalism", and it went on for weeks for no reason, and literally none of the various things everyone was mad about had actually happened. Didn't have any effect on the game, though. And when it was named GOTY by a panel of mostly games journalists, the same neckbeards who make 2-hour Youtube videos about how you should never listen to games journalists all cheered.

I'm sorry, I'll stop now. I don't know why this fascinates me so much.

You complain about people complaining way too much, motherfucker

I love how you think you are above whoever it is you're bitching about. You are not. If anything you're even worse because complaining about complaining is even more inane than whatever it was that was being complained about in the first place. Fuck man, you're middle aged and you literally complain about fucking YouTube. No wonder you can't get a date to save your life.

I hate your hate.

[Glub]

a bunch of people saying "you are bad!" on the internet only has so much power. and if people are being bad, then yes the internet should absolutely say "you are bad", that's how social change happens.

What bugs me about the Twitter mob - and I'm not saying this necessarily means it's an actual problem, just that it bugs me - is how there seem to be people who are only on there to look for things to get outraged about, and they'll join just about any outrage band wagon they can find, often with only the vaguest idea of what's actually going on. They just want to post whatever hashtag is popular that day so they can get retweets and likes, and typically you can tell 90% of them haven't seen whatever entertainment product is getting piled on for not being "inclusive" enough or whatever the grievance of the minute is.

A good example of this was the few weeks when Twitter said Sekiro was "ableist" because its difficulty made it impossible to beat for handicapped gamers. Some journalist posted and opinion piece about how he thought every game should have difficulty settings and tried to mount an argument about "accessibility" to make his point. Really just someone trying to meet his words quota on Forbes or wherever it was, but Twitter lost its shit because of the bad evil "ableist videogame", and most of the people who talked about it never played the game and didn't really give a shit about videogames otherwise. And then all the late-stage gamergaters came crawling out of the woodworks again to complain about "integrity in games journalism", and it went on for weeks for no reason, and literally none of the various things everyone was mad about had actually happened. Didn't have any effect on the game, though. And when it was named GOTY by a panel of mostly games journalists, the same neckbeards who make 2-hour Youtube videos about how you should never listen to games journalists all cheered.

I'm sorry, I'll stop now. I don't know why this fascinates me so much.

You complain about people complaining way too much, motherfucker

I love how you think you are above whoever it is you're bitching about. You are not. If anything you're even worse because complaining about complaining is even more inane than whatever it was that was being complained about in the first place. Fuck man, you're middle aged and you literally complain about fucking YouTube. No wonder you can't get a date to save your life.

Your whole life appears to be a joyloess ordeal consisting of imagined grievance after imagined grievance, so you're not the one to take anyone to task about complaining too much.

Who, over the age of 11 and under the age of 73, uses the term "get a date?"

Do you mean "No wonder you can't fuck," you numb cunt?
Or, in Crypto-Byzantinian-Pagan-Moonchild Land, do you abide by ol' timey rules of courtship?

[cxwx]

No one gets less dates than I do. I’m the very BEST at not getting dates. You wouldn’t BELIEVE how bad I am at getting laid. Anyone who tells you otherwise is fake news. There’s a wall built around my balls.

[Eight Bit Alien]

that was actually pretty funny xcxwx thanks

[spacehamster]

I don't expect anyone to believe this because it's documented all to well on here, mostly by me, that I'm not particularly successful with women, but I actually did have a date the night before MG posted that and made her cum like five times later at my place. Like, on literally any other day of the year, that insult, as lame as it is, would have had some merit, but our Crypto-Bynzantinian Warrior Priest can't even get that right. I was going to keep this to myself, but the timing is just too damn funny.

[Glub]

I don't expect anyone to believe this because it's documented all to well on here, mostly by me, that I'm not particularly successful with women, but I actually did have a date the night before MG posted that and made her cum like five times later at my place. Like, on literally any other day of the year, that insult, as lame as it is, would have had some merit, but our Crypto-Bynzantinian Warrior Priest can't even get that right. I was going to keep this to myself, but the timing is just too damn funny.

MG, like many of his kind, is deeply skeptical of the so-called female orgasm.

[FVBTVS]

spacehaVmster

[Eight Bit Alien]

Was she a blonde Germanic European???? BC that would fucking rule

Dumping PC loads in evropas womb while you're working on your runic coloring books so I didn't hear what ya said man sorry

[spacehamster]

Was she a blonde Germanic European???? BC that would fucking rule

Well, I didn't have the wherewithal in the heat of the moment to ask for ancestry documentation (sorry), but now that you mention it, definitely blonde and probably of reasonably Germanic origin.

[Glub]

Dumping PC loads in evropas womb while you're working on your runic coloring books so I didn't hear what ya said man sorry

This here won't be topped.