can I believe that a decent chunk of the GOP is largely compromised by the RNC hack, which almost certainly resulted in blackmailing of lindsey "totally secret cocksucker" graham & pals? mcconnel's up to his neck in russian money, GOP/NRA are besties and NRA is on the russian teat... you can say this is all coincidental but... why?Toilet Fleet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:33 amit is a sideshow! still! never wasn't! there are far more overt, out, naked, unquestionable affronts to the sorts of things that russia is widely assumed to have done—namely, fuck with the franchise—but so much of liberal fantasyland is focused on the russia shit. it's qanon for wine moms that decided to break up their real housewives marathons with CNN. any lib that whines about russian interference (which is most of them) but then doesn't know who their own state representative and/or senator is (which is most of them) deserves four more years of president lipitor.
here's how you can tell the russia thing is functionally meaningless: identify one single trump policy that has come to fruition that is fundamentally inconsistent with the larger GOP platform (unless, of course, your thesis is that the whole GOP is on the russian payroll which... is dumb?). and that's just a threshold question! from there, identify how that policy specifically inheres to the benefit of russian interests. has there been... anything on that front? the closest thing i can think of is syrian withdrawal—which is a super attenuated "win" for moscow, and also totally consistent with the "we need to stop being the world's police" strain of blood and soil politics that has pervaded the makeup of trump's base since fuckin pat buchanan in the late 80s.
our government is currently experiencing its longest-ever shut down, alt-right is A THING, a recession is looming, trade deficit with china is worse than ever (to the benefit of...) and our relations with international allies are at their worst (pulling out of NATO doesn't seem that much of a stretch). and yes DEFINITELY syria.
although... you kind of set up an unwinnable argument because GOP and russia are both aligned in wanting a destabilized everything here, because that serves their respective interests in slightly different ways. I don't think russia is a massive causal agent in all this but plenty of powerful GOP peeps are literally collaborating with (or kowtowing to) russia in ways that are mutually beneficial (or just happen to be self-serving). and backing the clearly-compromised trump at this point constitutes doing russia's bidding IMO, although I don't feel super confident on that.
do I get points because I didn't mention interference, at least?