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traditionalism takedown

Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 8:17 pm
by Chad
I still believe in some unknown beyond us, but I want to openly denounce "radical traditionalism"

guenon, evola, schuon are the main three, and guenon is worth reading. The others have been militarized and worked into self patting by total losers. The type of people who represent the opposite of what was meant, if anything was meant.

The reign of quantity by guenon might be the best book I've ever read. The rest is for self congratulating dogs

he was a good man and tortured by what he knew

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 6:07 pm
by Eight Bit Alien
The problem with all that stuff to me, is that it projects holy integrity towards what may be an imagined, prior state of humanity. If you put something far enough back (and often just slightly exotic and culturally foreign) you can project all kinds of nobility, and say to yourself "We're bad because we've strayed".

It's just like the flood myth, or the idea of atlantis, or people who want to solve the problems of African people by idealizing Egypt/Kemet, or some dumb republican who thinks everything was perfect in the 1950s IMHO.

Basically romanticism I guess.

Of those names up in yer post I really honestly only know Evola very well, I've seen dumb youtube videos on guenon but I've read nothing.

The people I know who are into vedic stuff (buddhists really) are REALLY getting into Evola lately, it's really weird.

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 7:41 pm
by Chad
I understand the draw of it, and we live in a time inviting criticism. Some of what evola wrote is correct and meaningful on its face. The problem is, that stuff was written in a different time. It's like you said, people are anachronistically presenting themselves as some sort of fix. There is distinct lack of humility in every bit of it. I regret the years when I was that type of jerk off. Everything is so messed up that I truly believe the best we can do is be kind to those around us

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 8:25 pm
by cxwx
I submit that our lack of commitment to any great mystique of national destiny is the healthiest thing about us and the reason for our current success. We are simple materialists, not bent on setting fire to the earth as a matter of holy principle, unlike the True Believers with their fierce Either-Ors, their Red or Dead absolutes, when the truth is that the world need be neither, just comfortably pink and lively.

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 8:36 pm
by MeatGrease
I consider all that stuff moral fantasy literature. It might be fun to read for some people, personally i'd rather just go with Dostoevsky instead, it's better at the same function.

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 8:43 pm
by cxwx
MeatGrease wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 8:36 pm My cats breath smells like cat food

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 2:34 am
by Glub
MeatGrease wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 8:36 pm I consider all that stuff moral fantasy literature. It might be fun to read for some people, personally i'd rather just go with Palahniuk instead, it's better at the same function.

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 6:53 am
by FVBTVS
MeatGrease wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 8:36 pm Yeah the reign of quantity and signs of the times was a pretty fascinating book for sure but at the same time didn't contain anything i couldn't find in, say, invisible monsters or even, my personal favorite, Choke

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 11:32 am
by cxwx
If you search the board for palahniuk about half the posts are from simmfoc.

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 11:51 am
by spacehamster
We don't actually buy that Meatgrease reads, though, do we?

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:23 pm
by Glub
spacehamster wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 11:51 am We don't actually buy that Meatgrease reads, though, do we?
I'm sure he reads juvenile shit solely to tell people that he reads.

He's a real piece of shit.
Shitty at everything.

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:29 pm
by cxwx
He is a renaissance man. Eclectic. From Mozart to Metallica. From Charles Murray to Andrew Macdonald.

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 2:27 pm
by spacehamster
The thing is, he seems like the kind of guy who'd namedrop Palahniuk without ever actually having read him because he thinks it'll make people think he's smart.

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:22 pm
by MeatGrease
FVBTVS wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 6:53 am
MeatGrease wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 8:36 pm Yeah the reign of quantity and signs of the times was a pretty fascinating book for sure but at the same time didn't contain anything i couldn't find in, say, invisible monsters or even, my personal favorite, Choke
Stop making shit up you piece of garbage

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:38 pm
by Glub
MeatGrease wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 3:22 pm
FVBTVS wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 6:53 am
MeatGrease wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 8:36 pm Yeah the reign of quantity and signs of the times was a pretty fascinating book for sure but at the same time didn't contain anything i couldn't find in, say, invisible monsters or even, my personal favorite, Choke
Stop making shit up you piece of garbage
Fucking make him, faggot.

Meatgrease is so astonishingly stupid that he thinks FVBTVS was trying to pass that off as a fake quote rather than (effectively) making fun of him.

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 3:58 pm
by cxwx
MeatGrease wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 8:36 pm Don’t tell me what to do you piece of shit!

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 4:06 pm
by Glub
This raises the question: is Meatgrease truly humorless or just too stupid to understand jokes?

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 4:53 pm
by FVBTVS
i kinda knew it was a good post when i made it :lol:

Re: traditionalism takedown

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:52 am
by THE KILL
Chad wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 7:41 pm Everything is so messed up that I truly believe the best we can do is be kind to those around us
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