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Nothing says California Excellence quite like Governor Dollar Store Gordon Gekko clamping down on every aspect of life while going to the French Laundry to celebrate some asshole lobbyist's birthday

My father hasn't seen me or my kids in almost a year, but sure, canapés and amuse-bouches with money laundering slugs
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Nothing says California Excellence quite like Governor Dollar Store Gordon Gekko clamping down on every aspect of life while going to the French Laundry to celebrate some asshole lobbyist's birthday

My father hasn't seen me or my kids in almost a year, but sure, canapés and amuse-bouches with money laundering slugs
And it's the shit like THIS that makes the MAGAts out there think "All politicians are corrupt and spineless and only care about themselves, which is why the only person I CAN trust is a fake Billionaire 'populist' who wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire"
Stabbed in the eyes with a fucking caak...

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the French Laundry
ahahaha THIS is where he was :awesome:

holy fuck

I have heard rumblings that he's going to hop into harris's senate seat

so this situation was basically a job interview for his new position in congress, and based on the skills you need for that job, he seems to have nailed it!
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John Joseph posted a manbaby vague anti-gubmint mandate insta post:



I commented:

me: How do you feel about wearing a mask? Not trying to start a political argument, just genuinely curious.
JJ: @me I have not worn a mask on the streets of new york city not once ever if I go in a store or a gym that's the rules they set up so I follow them but when I see motherfuckers out in the middle of nowhere ridding a bicycle and running with a mask (clown emoji)
JJ: @me Here's the other thing if I have to wear a mask on the street to protect other peoples' health then see them with a fucking bag of McDonald's or a cigarette I'm gonna smack that shit the fuck out of their hand that's the logic right (side laugh-cry emoji)

I'm happy I got a screen shot of it since the responses along with my post have since been deleted :lol:
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i do think running with a mask or riding with a mask is a tad unnecessary fwiw
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I don’t wear a mask if I’m raking leaves or something but if someone is walking up the sidewalk I’ll go as far away from then as possible or go back in my house until they are gone. It’s really annoying if some dipshit wants to start a conversation with you. I feel like I’m going to need to keep a mask handy just to do yard work.
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John Joseph posted a manbaby vague anti-gubmint mandate insta post:



I commented:

me: How do you feel about wearing a mask? Not trying to start a political argument, just genuinely curious.
JJ: @me I have not worn a mask on the streets of new york city not once ever if I go in a store or a gym that's the rules they set up so I follow them but when I see motherfuckers out in the middle of nowhere ridding a bicycle and running with a mask (clown emoji)
JJ: @me Here's the other thing if I have to wear a mask on the street to protect other peoples' health then see them with a fucking bag of McDonald's or a cigarette I'm gonna smack that shit the fuck out of their hand that's the logic right (side laugh-cry emoji)

I'm happy I got a screen shot of it since the responses along with my post have since been deleted :lol:
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Work should be getting around 900 doses of BNT162 in mid-December, that is the pfizer vaccine. I signed up for it, but with the caveat that all the staff who work do patient care come first. We do have some people here who won't get it for a variety of reasons, a few of them are even good reasons!
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Work should be getting around 900 doses of BNT162 in mid-December, that is the pfizer vaccine. I signed up for it, but with the caveat that all the staff who work do patient care come first. We do have some people here who won't get it for a variety of reasons, a few of them are even good reasons!
It's incredible that it's in production already. Do you have any concerns with it being available so soon? Earlier this year, I talked to a few medical professors who were skeptical that a vaccine would be available within two years, let alone a number of months. I'm all for it, but I am not so confident that I want to be at the front of the line.
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It's incredible that it's in production already.
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I talked to a few medical professors who were skeptical that a vaccine would be available within two years
their skepticism about success was the only reasonable stance. a vaccine has never been developed this quickly and the technologies that "won" were previously unproven. BUT that doesn't mean there's any reason to be suspicious of the technology - the scientists (and by extension, humanity) got lucky, basically

I am also kinda hesitant about getting these ultra-fast vaccines tbqh, but for selfishness/idiocy reasons, not defensible reasons
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Hunter wrote:
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It's incredible that it's in production already.
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I talked to a few medical professors who were skeptical that a vaccine would be available within two years
their skepticism about success was the only reasonable stance. a vaccine has never been developed this quickly and the technologies that "won" were previously unproven. BUT that doesn't mean there's any reason to be suspicious of the technology - the scientists (and by extension, humanity) got lucky, basically

I am also kinda hesitant about getting these ultra-fast vaccines tbqh, but for selfishness/idiocy reasons, not defensible reasons
Its the "got lucky" part that makes me suspicious. The weird cases where people have been sick for months, have brain fog, and/or have other lingering issues- it makes me want to hold off a bit.

Even with the vaccine, I'm not confident that things will return to previous norms any time soon. As long as anti vax people provide a mutation vessel, I don't think COVID is going anywhere. But I'm no scientist!
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The biotecnology that these are based on is not new, even the mRNA vaccines. So while its fucking amazing, its pretty reasonable in hindsight.

Data has not yet been peer-reviewed though, though its gotta be coming soon.
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Hunter wrote:
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The weird cases where people have been sick for months, have brain fog, and/or have other lingering issues- it makes me want to hold off a bit.
Yes.

I expect that it will be delivered in waves, maybe to frontline health workers first... basically I'm gonna kick back and keep a close eye on brave guinea pigs.
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Hunter wrote:
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The weird cases where people have been sick for months, have brain fog, and/or have other lingering issues- it makes me want to hold off a bit.
Yes.

I expect that it will be delivered in waves, maybe to frontline health workers first... basically I'm gonna kick back and keep a close eye on brave guinea pigs.
I'll let you guys know.

I'm technically not front line, but we've had enough "Oooops, patient was actually positive, oh well" the past month that I'm told we have first dibs.
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Geeheeb wrote:
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biotecnology
nice try, A.L.F. double-agent
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So while its fucking amazing, its pretty reasonable in hindsight.
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Hunter wrote:
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Its the "got lucky" part that makes me suspicious.
well, "suspicious" feels like "this doesn't actually work!" and yeah I think it'll work. might also royally fuck up 1 person in 5000 though. that's what makes me wary, not suspicious

not especially eager to get a vaccine since I'm already in hermit mode, and my polycule is also totally locked down - air-tight in my wife's case :twisted:
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Hunter wrote:
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Its the "got lucky" part that makes me suspicious.
well, "suspicious" feels like "this doesn't actually work!" and yeah I think it'll work. might also royally fuck up 1 person in 5000 though. that's what makes me wary, not suspicious

not especially eager to get a vaccine since I'm already in hermit mode, and my polycule is also totally locked down - air-tight in my wife's case :twisted:
I didn't mean to imply that it might not work... I'm more concerned that I might be left with some sort of long term side effect. Granted, I'd probably still get that side effect from contracting COVID anyway (or worse). Maybe it boils down to:


Is this the best they could do?
---or---
Is this the best they could do for now?

Could it be feasible that a safer vaccine *might* be available in say, another 6 months? These are the questions that I refuse to google myself.
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well the oxford vaccine is less effective but built on a more traditional platform - a viral shell as the carrier instead of nAnOpArTiClEs like the pfizer/moderna one

I think the toxicity/immunogenicity of these carrier materials is the big question mark. there are some therapeutics that rely on such carriers but I think it's also typical for them to immunosuppress the recipient upon dosing so their immune system doesn't freak out

I wasn't able to find anything concrete about the responses people have had to these nu vaccines (the mRNA ones) - link me if you've got anything substantial! I just heard about the guy who went to the ER because he was hit so hard, and then some guy on the radio that said that he felt like total shit (e.g. flu symptoms) after each dose
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The real problem is going to be too many anti-vaxxers making it impossible to achieve herd immunity. I'm not really in favor of forced vaccinations, but only because I know what would happen if we actually tried to do it.
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Necrometer wrote:
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well the oxford vaccine is less effective but built on a more traditional platform - a viral shell as the carrier instead of nAnOpArTiClEs like the pfizer/moderna one

I think the toxicity/immunogenicity of these carrier materials is the big question mark. there are some therapeutics that rely on such carriers but I think it's also typical for them to immunosuppress the recipient upon dosing so their immune system doesn't freak out

I wasn't able to find anything concrete about the responses people have had to these nu vaccines (the mRNA ones) - link me if you've got anything substantial! I just heard about the guy who went to the ER because he was hit so hard, and then some guy on the radio that said that he felt like total shit (e.g. flu symptoms) after each dose
Very interesting, thanks! I haven't seen much in the way of responses yet.
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The real problem is going to be too many anti-vaxxers making it impossible to achieve herd immunity. I'm not really in favor of forced vaccinations, but only because I know what would happen if we actually tried to do it.
This is what will keep the virus circulating and mutating, so I'm not optimistic that society is going back to normal any time soon. But anti-vaxxers are going to find out exactly how hard capitalism wants them vaccinated. I can imagine international travel being restricted unless you've been officially vaccinated, and policies evolving into "Sorry, no admittance to Disneyland without your immuno-card stamp".
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