Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:18 am
by joefromthegarage
Story:
Federal investigators believe Jon Schaffer sprayed U.S. Capitol Police with "bear spray" as he and other rioters forced their way into the Capitol building. Photographs from that day allegedly show Schaffer wearing a tactical vest with a baseball cap that read "Oath Keepers Lifetime Member." The Oath Keepers is a far-right militia that is known to target and recruit law enforcement and military personnel. According to court documents, Schaffer traveled to Washington, D.C., with
other Oath Keepers shortly after the 2020 election to participate in the "Million MAGA March." In an interview that day, he was asked if he expected the protests to be violent. "If somebody wants to bring violence, I think there’s a lot of us here that are ready for it," he said. "We don’t want that, but if they bring it we’re going to respond to that, trust me.” Schaffer is the front man for the heavy metal band "Iced Earth," and according to court documents "has long held far-right extremist views." He has referred to himself as an "anarchist" and called the goverment a "criminal enterprise."
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They should put out an album of Storm the Capital metal.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:53 am
by godofdeadlydeath
He has some dogshit side project called Sons of Liberty that is pretty much Storm the Capital metal. This guy was always a huge fucking nerdy loser but he really went off the deep end once they stopped writing about comic books and hell and more about history and "liberty". I was a big fan of IE and D&W (until about 2003) but now I'm never listening to either again. Fuck him.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:29 pm
by ThePhillyExperiment
Like an Ever Fowing Pepper Spray Stream
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:30 pm
by ThePhillyExperiment
Clear the Way (For My Flex Cuffs)
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:31 pm
by ThePhillyExperiment
Ten Thousand Strong (180 Arrested)
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:32 pm
by ThePhillyExperiment
Dark Saga: Guards Took my Shoelaces
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:30 pm
by Geeheeb
ThePhillyExperiment wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:31 pm
Ten Thousand Strong (180 Arrested)
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:21 pm
by cxwx
ThePhillyExperiment wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:29 pm
Like an Ever Fowing Pepper Spray Stream
Is that “When The Eagle Cries”?
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:32 pm
by Eight Bit Alien
"Yeah so then Daemaeon, who everyone thinks is evil but is really only twisted because of the way he's been misunderstood, conquers the Hittite Fallen Angel Kingdom from our last album and becomes the king of High Witch Alchaeon... but then, you know, he's getting a little older and the kids have moved out... doesn't go on tour as much as he did during the Spiral Dreamscape days... so he starts looking into this internet thing to interact with fans a bit, gets on Facebook... learns about the rebel faction of Q Angels and it reminds him of what he really fought for... and I just think that if the MLB draft wasn't being influenced by all this affirmative action shit, then... "
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:52 pm
by MeatGrease
No good deed goes unpunished
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:41 pm
by cxwx
MeatGrease wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:52 pm
Im NoT A cAt1!!!1!1!1
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:18 am
by godofdeadlydeath
Eight Bit Alien wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:32 pm
"Yeah so then Daemaeon, who everyone thinks is evil but is really only twisted because of the way he's been misunderstood, conquers the Hittite Fallen Angel Kingdom from our last album and becomes the king of High Witch Alchaeon... but then, you know, he's getting a little older and the kids have moved out... doesn't go on tour as much as he did during the Spiral Dreamscape days... so he starts looking into this internet thing to interact with fans a bit, gets on Facebook... learns about the rebel faction of Q Angels and it reminds him of what he really fought for... and I just think that if the MLB draft wasn't being influenced by all this affirmative action shit, then... "
hahahah
Also, what kind of dumb fucking name is "SET ABOMINAE" for your "mascot/character". The Something Wicked Trilogy/albums made no fucking sense lyrically. He's not even a GOOD nerdy lyricist or storyteller and his bible is "The Creature From Jekyll Island.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:07 am
by Eight Bit Alien
godofdeadlydeath wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:18 am
Also, what kind of dumb fucking name is "SET ABOMINAE" for your "mascot/character".
It's the fucking WORST. It's so fucking bad. It's such an UNBELIEVABLY STUPID NAME
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:18 am
by Eight Bit Alien
I've got a lot of nostalgia for 90s-early 2000s type heavy metal... shit that wasn't quite power metal, but kept the Iron Maiden/Dio torch burning during some pretty dark years for that sort of energy. Doing what he did, and doing it so fucking well, during the era where the whole world had committed to this narrative that straightforward, earnest, and silly music like that was a thing of the past... it's really pretty admirable. Not even a big Iced Earth fan really, just something I've thought about over the years.
This whole story is pretty unfortunate... I really hope it turns out that he didn't actually hurt anyone. Not holding my breath...
A few years ago this thought popped into my head, that any sufficiently complex political ideology is nothing bit a bit of wiring connecting whatever a person is most afraid of to the absolute worst that they're capable of a person. I think that's a kinda crazy thing to think, but I can't ever quite shake it entirely.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:24 am
by godofdeadlydeath
Eight Bit Alien wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:18 am
I've got a lot of nostalgia for 90s-early 2000s type heavy metal... shit that wasn't quite power metal, but kept the Iron Maiden/Dio torch burning during some pretty dark years for that sort of energy. Doing what he did, and doing it so fucking well, during the era where the whole world had committed to this narrative that straightforward, earnest, and silly music like that was a thing of the past... it's really pretty admirable. Not even a big Iced Earth fan really, just something I've thought about over the years.
This whole story is pretty unfortunate... I really hope it turns out that he didn't actually hurt anyone. Not holding my breath...
A few years ago this thought popped into my head, that any sufficiently complex political ideology is nothing bit a bit of wiring connecting whatever a person is most afraid of to the absolute worst that they're capable of a person. I think that's a kinda crazy thing to think, but I can't ever quite shake it entirely.
Given that Iron Maiden and Metallica are my two favorite bands of all-time, no shit I enjoyed Iced Earth musically very much. But around 2003 he stopped even attempting to write creative riffs and started focusing more on the songs and hooks, and that's where their quality dropped off DRASTICALLY. I enjoyed Dystopia a lot when it came out but the more I got into the lyrics I realized "oh this album is about how Obama is a terrorist trying to take our freedoms, isn't it?" and it just was really hard to get into it or any of the albums that have come since. I like Stu Block's voice a lot and he was a good fit for them but the songs just weren't there.
And I think your theory about ideology tying into fear is 100% correct. I mean, go back to "Colors." I always assumed it was about the movie of the same name, but now it clearly reads lyrically as "Fuck the darkies they are trying to rob and kill us all." It basically reads like "The Central Park 5 Are GUILTY, ACTUALLY: The Song"
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:54 am
by Erik13
godofdeadlydeath wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:53 am
He has some dogshit side project called Sons of Liberty that is pretty much Storm the Capital metal. This guy was always a huge fucking nerdy loser but he really went off the deep end once they stopped writing about comic books and hell and more about history and "liberty". I was a big fan of IE and D&W (until about 2003) but now I'm never listening to either again. Fuck him.
Fuck him for what? Having the balls to be a true patriot?
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
godofdeadlydeath wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:53 am
He has some dogshit side project called Sons of Liberty that is pretty much Storm the Capital metal. This guy was always a huge fucking nerdy loser but he really went off the deep end once they stopped writing about comic books and hell and more about history and "liberty". I was a big fan of IE and D&W (until about 2003) but now I'm never listening to either again. Fuck him.
Fuck him for what? Having the balls to be a true patriot?
I can never tell with you Erik whether you're serious or not. I'm guessing you are.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:44 pm
by Eight Bit Alien
50/50, he's just being Big E.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
godofdeadlydeath wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:53 am
He has some dogshit side project called Sons of Liberty that is pretty much Storm the Capital metal. This guy was always a huge fucking nerdy loser but he really went off the deep end once they stopped writing about comic books and hell and more about history and "liberty". I was a big fan of IE and D&W (until about 2003) but now I'm never listening to either again. Fuck him.
Fuck him for what? Having the balls to be a true patriot?
Ah, yes, the enormous testicles required to throw a tantrum when something doesn't go your way, get your dumbass taken into custody (mostly because you couldn't resist the allure of PAY ATTENTION TO ME AND MY CUTE LITTLE COSPLAY UNIFORM ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLEASE!) and then engage in a campaign of "boo hoo, poor me, life's not fair, this is all someone else's fault" when it becomes painfully apparent you might have to account for your laughably poor decisions.
Truly, the stuff that greatness is made of.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:54 pm
by cxwx
Big dawg erik would have driven his mustang right up to Nancy Pelosi office like in Action Jackson after using a beer keg for a battering ram. He might bleed to death from a paper cut though so he had to sit this one out.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:34 pm
by ThePhillyExperiment
Heinrich13, please post a video of you eating one of those new KFC sandwiches while sitting at Pelosi's desk.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:00 pm
by FVBTVS
honestly
board has enough low watt culture warrior shit. eat some toxic waste in your truck for us
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:12 pm
by Zerohero
godofdeadlydeath wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:53 am
He has some dogshit side project called Sons of Liberty that is pretty much Storm the Capital metal. This guy was always a huge fucking nerdy loser but he really went off the deep end once they stopped writing about comic books and hell and more about history and "liberty". I was a big fan of IE and D&W (until about 2003) but now I'm never listening to either again. Fuck him.
Ya know, some dumb garden variety heavy metal guy being duMM is one thing.. but what amazes me is, this is a guy in a band that played allover the world (I'm assuming that, since they had a triple live album from Greece), has seen living conditions in "socialist" places like Norway, Sweden and Denmark, just to name a few...and other "socialized medicine" countries.
Travel in lots of ways the ultimate education...how do you manage to learn nothing?
I get why pissed off white poor (too lazy to learn any job skillz, just steaming about feriners steeelin there jobs) would fall for foxnews propaganda. But fuck people that have had the life experiences to know better are a whole other level of idiot.
Disclosure, seen Iced Earth once.. on a bill with some other bands, enjoyed some of the early stuff...never kept up, nor had any idea dude was such a shithead.
I think Ripper Owens was in the band for a while---and pretty sure he's a card carrying fox newser trumper retard as well.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:16 pm
by The Bill
All I know about this band is they inspired some chooch to make 2 or 3 map pack/mods for original Half-Life naming one Iced Earth and would quote
them in game. Mod was decent enough. I’m an old man now and love me some Maiden and can’t be bothered with the noise/sludge/grind bore of much metal anymore. Also huge do not want to silly Dungeons and Dragons rock opera. Worth looking into for Maiden’s sake, or just give up and hope iTunes releases the audio version of what music is in 4K for Seventh Son one day? Inquiring minds want to know.
Re: Jon Ryan Schaffer of Iced Earth arrested on federal charges at the Capitol Riots
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:19 am
by spacehamster
Eight Bit Alien wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:18 am
I've got a lot of nostalgia for 90s-early 2000s type heavy metal... shit that wasn't quite power metal, but kept the Iron Maiden/Dio torch burning during some pretty dark years for that sort of energy. Doing what he did, and doing it so fucking well, during the era where the whole world had committed to this narrative that straightforward, earnest, and silly music like that was a thing of the past... it's really pretty admirable. Not even a big Iced Earth fan really, just something I've thought about over the years.
This is why I'll never not love the first Hammerfall album. They got a lot of hate years later when it was popular to play this kind of shit again, but everyone forgets how when that album came out, it seemed like nobody in the universe wanted to hear this kind of music ever again, and Hammerfall was just a bunch of lanky geeks from Sweden with an album that sounded like they recorded it in a weekend, hamming it up on stage doing Accept poses and grinning from ear to ear every minute of their show because fuck it, this is fun.
