canon.docre wrote:no one is saying don't exercise. The fact that it literally burns calories is pretty much secondary to every other benefit it provides in my opinion.
OK, but you said exercise is not linked to weight loss.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:24 pm
by canon.docre
Raw Ting wrote:Literally burns the calories
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:26 pm
by Cryptoplasty
Necrometer wrote:My key beef with CI/CO is that you cannot guess with any precision how much energy is used during exercise, or how much energy is actually harvested from a given meal, without being hooked up to a fuckload of science gear. You just might have to annihilate the test subject in a bomb calorimeter to get to the truth. Also, CI/CO is interpreted by lazy people as "eat fewer calories" and then they fail because hunger feels terrible and then they blame science.
This is well said. I will never understand what people get out of calorie counting. It has to do more harm than good.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:27 pm
by Cryptoplasty
canon.docre wrote:
Raw Ting wrote:Literally burns the calories
which leads to weight loss.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:28 pm
by Cryptoplasty
and also increases metabolism, which also leads to weight loss.
Idget Child wrote:Also, it maybe worth mentioning that exercise can vary greatly based on methods, specific work-outs, calories burned, etc., but a good rule of thumb is that it's probably a good idea for most people. It's not like obese people are hopelessly shackled by lard.
no one is saying don't exercise. The fact that it literally burns calories is pretty much secondary to every other benefit it provides in my opinion.
No one here is saying don't exercise. If I want to direct what I am saying to you, then I would go ahead and say that even a "secondary" benefit such as calorie burning is still a needed benefit in a lot of these cases, not to mention some of those considerably primary benefits like muscle development or improved metabolism that could very well help the whole issue in the first place.
Diet certainly plays a big part in this, too, but I think we're still looking at a group of people who are scapegoating rather than ameliorating their diets; it's certainly presumptuous but the degree of "WHATEVER, I'LL DO WHAT I WANT" is excessive for some of these bloggers (note: not the only excess).
You fucking Canadians are such pussies. You can thank your health care for making you guys so needy.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:54 pm
by riley-o
Anyone who keeps rats should be stomped into a pit of hungry ones, and then the pit filled with napalm from the barrel of a specialized Prius.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:02 pm
by canon.docre
riley-o wrote:Anyone who keeps rats should be stomped into a pit of hungry ones, and then the pit filled with napalm from the barrel of a specialized Prius.
You probably wouldn't even let me smoke around the kids you are no doubt considering having after reading that fucking shit bill waterson comic.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:06 pm
by bland ed
Geeheeb wrote:the more I learn about fiber the more I'm anti-orangejuice...
Dude... there are domestic rats that people have been breeding as pets for the longest time, these aren't sewer rats with a zillion diseases and maggots living behind their eyeballs we're talking about here.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:18 pm
by riley-o
Mustard gas spewing Prius treads for all rat sympathizers/apologists
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:24 pm
by FVBTVS
spraying the mounds of their skeletons with sarin just to be sure..
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:30 pm
by Necrometer
canon.docre wrote:
Cryptoplasty wrote:and also increases metabolism
source?
Cryptoplasty wrote:really?
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:09 pm
by Cryptoplasty
this is like citing a source for reasons humans need oxygen to survive.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:41 am
by How Are Mortiis Goatse?!
Riley will be pleased to hear that throughout my career as a medical researcher I have murdered a triple digit number of rats.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:04 pm
by riley-o
It's not their fault they're scurrying diseasebombs. It's the toxic, broken people who think humans keeping pests as pets that need to be gassed and made into lampshades for their unforgivable crimes..
Seems reasonable, but I'll need resident science guys to weigh in on whether they think it's even plausible to imagine something like this would be of any help to fat humans.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:55 pm
by Zap Rowsdower
Oh man, this is from the NYT article on that study:
“I’m very excited about this,” he added, saying the next step will be to try using gut bacteria to treat obesity by transplanting feces from thin people.
I really hope this is an elaborate practical joke on people who buy into bogus science. "I'm on that diet where all I eat is the shit of thin people. I'm not gonna be fat much longer."
