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Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:35 am
by spacehamster
Necrometer wrote:shit, I had assumed PCOS was caused by obesity, not the other way around
Isn't that pretty much what that article says, though? They're being a little coy about it, but basically it says high insulin leads to PCOS, so stop eating too much sugar.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:57 am
by Necrometer
Bah, looking closer, I think you're right. My genetics caused my sugar addiction caused PCOS caused my obesity
damn you, PCOS!
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:56 am
by FVBTVS
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:07 am
by Necrometer
a classic case of mitochondrion v. mitochondri
yawn
After contacting thousands of families in Finland, they came across 16 such pairs of identical adult twins, six male and 10 female. Once they got them into a lab and began testing, half of the obese twins quickly stood out.
“The first thing that popped out was when we looked at the amount of fat stored in their livers,” Dr. Naukkarinen said. “There was a significant difference.”
The 16 pairs were split evenly into two groups. In both, the average weight difference between the siblings was about 40 pounds. But in one group, the obese siblings had higher blood pressure, worse cholesterol levels and poorer measures of blood sugar and insulin production, as well as seven times the amount of fat in their livers. In the other group, the obese twins’ blood work and liver fat was similar to that of their lean twins.
Extensive tests of each person’s fat tissue revealed some other surprises. The healthy obese had 11 percent more adipocytes, or fat cells, in their subcutaneous fat tissue than their normal weight twins. But the unhealthy obese had 8 percent fewer fat cells than their leaner siblings, despite a higher body fat percentage.
The fat cells of the unhealthy obese were larger than those of any other group. They were swollen and riddled with inflammation.
even their fat cells are fat
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:54 am
by Zap Rowsdower
Is it that these fats got fat so fast (fatst?) that certain functions couldn't notice and haven't caught up?
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:42 pm
by Geeheeb
Zap Rowsdower wrote:Is it that these fats got fat so fast (fatst?) that certain functions couldn't notice and haven't caught up?
I'd say its more along the lines of the "healthy obese" people are compensating better than the standard obese. I also agree with the article that there is probably a spectrum for metabolic tolerance.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:55 pm
by Necrometer
Zap Rowsdower wrote:Is it that these fats got fat so fast (fatst?) that certain functions couldn't notice and haven't caught up?
this is a fine idea but the data suggest otherwise - the average BMI of the two obese twin groups is similar... if your thing was right, then I'd expect the healthier ones to be less fat or younger or something... or maybe that's shitty reasoning. I guess we don't know if the healthy ones got fat more recently, which would better get at your question
oh, they actually address that in the article:
Metabolically healthy obesity is found more frequently among younger adults, as a large study in the journal Diabetes Care demonstrated in August. There is growing evidence that it may be a transition state, and that if followed long enough, some, if not many, people in this category will eventually develop the expected metabolic disturbances.
That study followed several thousand Australians for up to a decade, about 12 percent of whom were initially deemed metabolically healthy obese. “We found that about a third of these people progressed down the road to being metabolically unhealthy,” said Sarah Appleton, a research fellow at the University of Adelaide. “Metabolically healthy obesity may essentially be a transient state.”
not looking too great for the "healthy fats"
anyone can download the paper as a zip, I think...
http://www.diabetologia-journal.org/fil ... arinen.zip
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:00 pm
by a world of no
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:06 pm
by Geeheeb
those people have lower blood pressure than I do
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:22 pm
by Raw Ting
http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/i ... -youre-fat
move over slaves and jews, fattwinks are literally the most oppressed people ever
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:35 am
by Raw Ting
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:36 am
by Raw Ting
"you're allowed to delude yourself into insane zones where hideous shapes are attractive...and she's done it."
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:08 pm
by spacehamster
My favorite part is how he admits he was never really picked on for being gay - if he'd ever actually experienced homophobia, he probably wouldn't equate fat-shaming with it so readily.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:31 pm
by a world of no
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:33 pm
by Raw Ting
to be fair, at least shepard died thin. he may have been tortured to death but this guy is fat, which is literally a fate worse than death
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:43 pm
by FVBTVS
i'm only halfway done with that fb socratic dialogue and my sides are already in pain from giggling too hard.
stay within your field
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:47 pm
by a world of no
That and blaming the government for making high caloric substances available that fat people enjoy stuffing down their gob.
Also: "hfcs was introduce in the early 90s and diebeties never existed before hfcs was introduced"
This bullshit represents probably 98% of all fat fuck nutritional knowledge base.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:49 pm
by spacehamster
He has interceptors in his brain, guys. Can't blame him.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:26 am
by Friendly Goatus
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:25 pm
by Zap Rowsdower
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:42 pm
by Gunther
oh my god
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:45 pm
by Raw Ting
i'm thinking she might not be telling the truth
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:28 pm
by ThePhillyExperiment
I think I see an Eskimo canoe in the distance.
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:34 pm
by ThePhillyExperiment
Re: Big & Beautiful Thread of Sizeisms
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:47 pm
by riley-o