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Dann O))) wrote:Dissection and Terrorizer are definitely tops, but this one is a stinker to me.

I knew this was coming


but ya know, I put it on again a week ago, and I actually kinda like it now.

not that I don't understand why it's disappointing as an Emperor record

Hostage Grenade II wrote:

Oh come on. Newer Entombed is good for what it is.

Monotheist

Toxicarius wrote:

Dann O))) wrote:

Toxicarius wrote:Queen spread their disappointing swansong over the span of 6 or 7 albums...

What do you consider their last good album? I have a fondness for the cheesy '80s stuff, but it's hit or miss, obviously.

I think their 70's material is unfuckwithable... but once they broke their "no synths" pledge it all went downhill. Depending on my mood I might acknowledge a soft spot for The Game, but Hot Space, etc. is a no-go.

Queen's shit was always so varied, though. It's not like there was a certain sound or formula they suddenly broke with.

And that Misfits thing, jesus. What a mess. In theory, Misfits doing 50s-60s covers should be an epic win, especially if they got Danzig on vocals...the reality, of course, not so much.

Fung Tunt wrote:entombed were fucking garbage after clandestine.well, to be honest, clandestine is the only album i like by them, along with the stranger aeons ep.the rest sucks...

I cant understand how a metal fan would not like left hand path.

Turd Murder wrote:Monotheist

Whoa, GUY. Monotheist is a fantastic album. Did you really want Tom G Warrior shouting "Oooh!" and "Hey!" all over the place with forced simple riffs that would suck because they've all become proficient at playing music? If you did, then you probably like the last few Venom releases too. Monotheist a powerful, moving, dark, and twisted album that will hopefully be carried forward with Tryptikon.

Some good songs on here, but also some very poor ones and some very poorly re-interpreted ones. Coil fans loved this shit and I get why. "Fire of the Mind" and "Going Up" are great songs, but the re-interpreted stuff is crap. I don't need another version of Teenage Lightning, and the original mixes of "Cold Cell" and "A.Y.O.R." were excellent. Much prefer everything Christopherson's been involved in since, especially the SoiSong records.

Turd Murder wrote:Monotheist

its way better than THIS

i've always liked Prometheus even more than IX. i'm satisfied that its "their" swansong album though i feel like ihsahn wrote so much of the new material that samoth just put all his creative energy towards Zyklon and left the rest of the work to ihsahn.

hipster holocaust wrote:

no

Hostage Grenade II wrote:

no

Turd Murder wrote:Monotheist

no!

as a musical album, Reinkaos is pure shit...as a conceptual document of where dude was...its perfect...passable metal with some of the most intricate occult themes ever put on record...remember...this guy KILLED someone after being satanic...if you view it, lyrics in hand, as his final statement...its different

Chad wrote:as a musical album, Reinkaos is pure shit...as a conceptual document of where dude was...its perfect...passable metal with some of the most intricate occult themes ever put on record...remember...this guy KILLED someone after being satanic...if you view it, lyrics in hand, as his final statement...its different

no. it still sucks.

however, the nu-dissection still crushed it live.. just watch the DVD they shot after he got out.

don't listen to this new jack...play reinkaos and READ...

http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/dissec ... nkaos.html

I wouldn't lie to you...

pray to Jesus, lest we all tap into what Jon was on...

You don't really need to read the lyrics to Reinkaos since you can make out everything he's saying as it is. The album is garbage at best.

Well, I just spent the last 5-10 minutes of my life watching that snipe over and over. Wouldn't have had it any other way..

copstache wrote:

hipster holocaust wrote:

no

lol ok...

the only thing i don't like about it is the vocals

copstache wrote:the only thing i don't like about it is the vocals

well that's the fecal icing on the sewage cake. other blunders to consider:

production
song writing
lyrics (somehow even MORE pretentious than their other stuff)
production
artwork/layout
arrangements
did i mention production?

also keep in mind this is coming from a pretty die hard orchid fan

to be fair every time i've gone back to it it's been less and less painful to get through, but, seriously...still gets a big 'do not want' stamp from me even 8 years later

Abigor - satanized,
but then they reformed and continue to suck in even worse fashion

hipster holocaust wrote:

copstache wrote:the only thing i don't like about it is the vocals

well that's the fecal icing on the sewage cake. other blunders to consider:

production
song writing
lyrics (somehow even MORE pretentious than their other stuff)
production
artwork/layout
arrangements
did i mention production?

also keep in mind this is coming from a pretty die hard orchid fan

to be fair every time i've gone back to it it's been less and less painful to get through, but, seriously...still gets a big 'do not want' stamp from me even 8 years later

poser

Smegma wrote:

right over there wrote:

If you go to MDF - I'm going to walk right up to you and sock you in the mouth.

You really don't think that's a disappointing album to shut the door on your band with?
There's some good songs on there, but everything that made Jawbreaker great is missing. Blake's trademark raspy vocals, the raw production, the energy... I don't think it sucks, but it is absolutely a disappointing swansong album.