Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:09 am
by altars of radness
Necrometer wrote:I like it a lot! your beloved noise rock is one of my less favorite genres, but I dig how you unified a song that I always viewed as two disparate halves
Thanks, man.
When I first read that I saw "I dig how you ruined a song..." Which would have been cool, too.
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:53 am
by Necrometer
I mean... most of us are going into this with full knowledge that we'll be ruining a song
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:27 pm
by badgevvrecker
so apparently on freesound.or they refer to this type of challenge as a dare, so as not to make it a competition. i'm won't lie, i rather like that.
altars Blackened Sabbath gets a + and
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - stake yer claims
This is pretty good. I agree with Ross, noise rock ranks among one of my lesser liked genres, so the beginning kind of turned me off, but I'm glad I listened to it all the way. It's a good cover, and it gets really good after the two minute point to me.
And since you guys were posting covers you liked on the last page, I'll just say that I've always been partial to Monster Magnets psychedelic mindfuck of an Into The Void cover:
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - stake yer claims
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:12 pm
by altars of radness
Iron Goldie wrote:I agree with Ross, noise rock ranks among one of my lesser liked genres, so the beginning kind of turned me off
Yeah, I was going to cut off the intro because it's so annoying, but that ended up being the reason why I kept it. I think it gives the actual beginning of the song more impact, too.
Thanks for the listens.
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:18 pm
by badgevvrecker
i get so angry with that cover of into the void because it wholly dispenses with my favorite riff.
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:20 pm
by Introvert
badgevvrecker wrote:i get so angry with that cover of into the void because it wholly dispenses with my favorite riff.
My favorite cover of that song is the Soundgarden one.
And good stuff Altars!
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:22 pm
by badgevvrecker
it's gonna be really hard to top that -halo- cover of black sabbath
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:23 am
by Necrometer
What? He did!
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:27 am
by Necrometer
Necrometer wrote:What? He did!
...and the only reason I clicked that vid is because of the fucking weird lefty-hating POV technique he used to film...
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:03 am
by Necrometer
Bored013 wrote:The right handers just don't understand us, Ross.
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:07 am
by Necrometer
Bored013 wrote:I was watching this yesterday:
That guitar sound bothers me...
yeah... guitar tone's come a long way on its quest to sucking in the intervening decades
Ozzy's weird crouch dance at 0:20? WTF?
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:37 pm
by BUNGVOX
Bored013 wrote:I love how Iommi still thinks Ozzy is a total dumbass. Those tales of him beating the shit out of Ozzy in the old days are hilarious...
Edit...oh, and...for the umpteenth time:
Godflesh on the speakers before they start...
they opened with this when i saw them....not sure if it was a few days before or after this vid was filmed.
whatever happened to dave trissid? he wasn't the bassist for very long but he was damned solid. was kinda bummed that joe preston wasn't with em anymore but still.
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:55 am
by \m/Johnny\m/
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:22 pm
by Necrometer
indeed!
in the pantheon of Sabbath covers (this was a cottage industry during the 90s...) almost never are these riffs "smartened up" - attempts aren't even made
why? maybe it would be heretical to come along after decades of progress in the genre they accidentally spawned, and just stomp the shit out of their sandcastles...
... anyway, going to have to finish mine by the end of this weekend due to holiday shit - it's not going to be easy but it should be doable... drums and riffs are basically locked, gotta find the courage to attempt composition of this solo and then... oh jesus the vocals
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:25 pm
by Necrometer
hahaha! that'd be fine if I were going for a general BS cover... like AoR and like my 'zig covers, I have a laser focus on this one, and some big shoes to fill
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:11 pm
by triple clutcher v2.5b
Necrometer wrote:indeed!
in the pantheon of Sabbath covers (this was a cottage industry during the 90s...) almost never are these riffs "smartened up" - attempts aren't even made
why? maybe it would be heretical to come along after decades of progress in the genre they accidentally spawned, and just stomp the shit out of their sandcastles...
what can you do with a riff like "Iron Man" that'll make it less retarded before you've totally rewritten it? And will your new, less-retarded riff be as begrudgingly charming? I think it's an interesting test of ability to see what a musician can do with an older Sabbath tune.
If you're not creative enough, it's gonna suck.
And if you get too creative, it's still gonna suck.
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:16 pm
by Necrometer
Do you really think that Ultraviolence cover (which I incidentally love) is a good example of "getting too creative" - I mean it's only the surface shit that's different - the structure and melodic composition are basically identical, right?
I fucking hate Iron Man, but since you brought it up here's a changed-it-an-adequate-amount-while-still-staying-faithful (notes progress the same but with different rhythm IIRC) that may or may not suck:
triple clutcher v2.5b wrote:I think it's an interesting test of ability to see what a musician can do with an older Sabbath tune.
Totally agreed. But even really solid composers have seemed to play it extremely safe on these covers (Sleep's Snowblind, Megadeth's covers, I know there are more...). If anything, when people do change the core composition, I've found it to be a deconstruction of the song to something even stupider! (Fudge Tunnel!?!?!)
[going on memory w/o fresh listens on all of this, apologies for any ignorant or misguided statements]
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:50 pm
by triple clutcher v2.5b
maybe "changed too much" was an oversimplification? OLD did a great synth-heavy cover of "Who Are You?", and even the cover of "Supernaut" that Al Jourgensen did on "Nativity In Black" is pretty good. But the Ultraviolence cover sounds poorly thought-out to me ... like dude wanted to do an electronic Sabbath cover, "Paranoid" is a simple tune, and no real thought went into trying to make the two cohere beyond a mostly superficial change in the arrangement (nb: my interpretation of how it came about is probably wrong).
I like the Cardigans' cover because it's a good song on its own, but you can still tell that it's "Iron Man". It feels like actual thought went into making it enjoyable beyond the initial novelty value. And Sleep's cover of "Snowblind" is great just because it goes gleefully barreling past "slavish ripoff" and crashes headfirst into "parallel universe Sabbath bootleg" territory.
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:31 pm
by Necrometer
fucking LOVE that Sleep cover
listening to that Cardigans cover for the first time in a while... it's sorta OK, but I'm generally blinded a bit with rage over the fact that one of the shittiest BS songs is "the" heavy metal anthem known to the rest of the world
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:55 pm
by Necrometer
irritate them back!
where the fuck is thor's on-the-brink-of-done-for-a-month wonder project?
drums & guitars (sans solo) are all recorded, just gotta do bass (takes 5 seconds), vocals, and lead this weekend... should be doable
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:03 am
by Necrometer
fuck yes... we need to put some fires under asses around here
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:27 am
by badgevvrecker
my friends studio where i do the vocals (infinitely better equipment than my baling-wire and duct-tape setup) is in chuck schaffs old place right down the road. unfortunately i work evenings and the dude who runs it works mornings. if i'm off before early AM he'll let me in and i can lock up when i leave. unfortunately the last time that was convenient and feasible, he forgot that his badass biker mom was coming into town for a visit and couldn't.
Re: BLACK xmaSABBATH CoveReee project - 1 song posted!
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:34 am
by glovefullavaseline
i was going to spend more time on this but i feel the need to share it now.
