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Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:52 pm
by riley-o
fallbacktostone wrote:i cant read any of this right now but my heart truly just sank when chad said he was christian.
i dearly hoped it was just something he's using as an obscure trolling technique that i don't understand yet...

Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:00 pm
by death by snoo snoo
Chad wrote:I'm a Christian.
Why?

There are plenty of reasons to hate jews without having to resort to deicide.

Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:42 pm
by Chad
sorry, I have no answers here...

Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:51 pm
by Chad
I really don't know...

Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:09 pm
by death by snoo snoo
So........you just think it is a net positive as a social institution?

I'm having trouble following you and that goddamn video is an HOUR long. So please, elaborate..

Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:16 pm
by Chad
hard to say, really...

Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:25 pm
by neckbeard
Are all the videos criticisms of certain sects or whole religions for doing bad things?

Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:28 pm
by Chad
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Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:34 pm
by death by snoo snoo
Chad wrote:
death by snoo snoo wrote:So........you just think it is a net positive as a social institution?

I'm having trouble following you and that goddamn video is an HOUR long. So please, elaborate..
I reject it in action, day to day one might not say I am a Christian. but I do behave that way around my parents, I pretend that it all means something to me when in fact it was shattered long ago...if they read this, it would hurt them
I guess I can understand that. I avoid talking about my lack of faith with loved ones. I'm not sure how much of it is out of fear that they will ratchet up the religious nonsense to try and save me, however..

Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:36 pm
by Comrade Slinky
Chad wrote:of all those who believed and disbelieved, which I have known, those who believed were the most decent, caring, who troubled themselves for the wellbeing of others, who cared beyond the moment

those who disbelieved were the wretched, hateful, who cared for nothing but the next moment, and disregarded human life to the point of mocking pain mercilessly
So much thoughtfulness on display!

Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:44 pm
by Chad
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Re: of all the loudmouth secularists...

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:00 am
by fallbacktostone
Chad wrote:for you guys, and you guys only, I will submit that I have intellectually rejected the idea of the supernatural. it simply does not exist to my mind, and is as much fantasy as any fairytale you like. that said...I think there is a myth woven into Christianity, that if I wished it rejected, I would defy everything. which is to say...the perpetuation of that myth means as much to me as its denial
chad have you read any of zizeks writing on christianity? the fragile absolute maybe? his talks 'why only an atheist can believe'? his stuff on chesterton, the crucifixion, or the book of job. any of that...

when he dips into theology he's often (to his own admission) somewhat out of his element but he frequently comes up with amazing insight. a lot of it mostly based on other thinkers but the way he tends to re-postulate things is extremely powerful for me

he's not a jew