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There have been 24 attempts in the United States to regulate speech that has been deemed seditious. In 1798, President John Adams signed into law the Alien and Sedition Acts, the fourth of which, the Sedition Act or "An Act for the Punishment of Certain Crimes against the United States" set out punishments of up to two years of imprisonment for "opposing or resisting any law of the United States" or writing or publishing "false, scandalous, and malicious writing" about the President or the U.S. Congress, but specifically not the Vice-President. This Act of Congress was allowed to expire in 1801 after the election of Thomas Jefferson to the Presidency. He had been the Vice-President at the time of the Act's passage.

In the Espionage Act of 1917, Section 3 made it a crime, punishable by up to 20 years of imprisonment and a fine of up to $10,000, to willfully spread false news of the American army and navy with an intent to disrupt their operations, to foment mutiny in their ranks, or to obstruct recruiting. This Act of Congress was amended Sedition Act of 1918, which expanded the scope of the Espionage Act to any statement criticizing the Government of the United States. These Acts were upheld in 1919 in the case of Schenck v. United States, but they were largely repealed in 1921, leaving laws forbidding foreign espionage in the United States and allowing military censorship of sensitive material.

In 1940, the Alien Registration Act, or "Smith Act", was passed, which made it a crime to advocate or to teach the desirability of overthrowing the United States Government, or to be a member of any organization which does the same. It was often used against Communist Party organizations. This Act was invoked in three major cases, one of which against the Socialist Worker's Party in Minneapolis in 1941, resulting in 23 convictions, and again in what became known as the Great Sedition Trial of 1944 in which a number of pro-Nazi figures were indicted but released when the prosecution ended in a mistrial. Also, a series of trials of 140 leaders of the Communist Party USA also relied upon the terms of the "Smith Act" - beginning in 1949 - and lasting until 1957. Although the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the convictions of 11 CPUSA leaders in 1951, that same Court reversed itself in 1957 in the case of Yates v. United States, by ruling that teaching an ideal, no matter how harmful it may seem, does not equal advocating or planning its implementation. Although unused since at least 1961, the "Smith Act" remains a Federal law.

Laura Berg, a nurse at a U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs hospital in New Mexico was investigated for sedition in September 2005[13] after writing a letter[14][15] to the editor of a local newspaper, accusing several national leaders of criminal negligence. Though their action was later deemed unwarranted by the director of Veteran Affairs, local human resources personnel took it upon themselves to request an FBI investigation. Ms. Berg was represented by the ACLU[16]. Charges were dropped in 2006[1]. On March 28, 2010, nine members of the militia Hutaree were arrested and charged with crimes including seditious conspiracy.[17]
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lying piece of shit... :lol:
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Ugh, please don't get me started on (I wish I could do some really sarcastic quote fingers) 'anarchopunks'. The last few days have proven that Portland 'anarchists' are a bunch of fucking loser douchebags. I respect pretty much anyone's right to protest and hell, I might even agree with some of your points, but causing damage and violence to downtown business and innocent bystanders while you have your face covered to protest police issues (that 99% of these fuckheads probably didn't even have any of the facts or details) is fucking cowardly and and just fucking stupid. These fucking losers are right up there with whacko religious freaks who think they are proving a point by shooting abortion doctors. Like I said, I may agree with some of your views but you are doing absolutely nothing to prove your point by acting like the shitheads that you are.
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stop copy and pasting shit... if you want to make a thread, spoiler the article and then write something about the subject yourself... it will inspire a conversation... this is a forum for talking about stuff...
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Green Chamber wrote:stop copy and pasting shit... if you want to make a thread, spoiler the article and then write something about the subject yourself... it will inspire a conversation... this is a forum for talking about stuff...
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Green Chamber wrote:stop copy and pasting shit...
in fact, you could just stop posting entirely, i'm sure everyone here would appreciate that a lot...
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another great thread man
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riley-o wrote:
Green Chamber wrote:stop copy and pasting shit...
in fact, you could just stop posting entirely, i'm sure everyone here would appreciate that a lot...
apparently geeheeb wouldn't.....
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Natas wrote:another great thread man
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Natas wrote:another great thread man
oh? is that why you came in here and replied to it as soon as you saw my name next to it? well then, thanks for the support! another great bump from you! :tup: :tup:
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Introvert wrote:Ugh, please don't get me started on (I wish I could do some really sarcastic quote fingers) 'anarchopunks'. The last few days have proven that Portland 'anarchists' are a bunch of fucking loser douchebags. I respect pretty much anyone's right to protest and hell, I might even agree with some of your points, but causing damage and violence to downtown business and innocent bystanders while you have your face covered to protest police issues (that 99% of these fuckheads probably didn't even have any of the facts or details) is fucking cowardly and and just fucking stupid. These fucking losers are right up there with whacko religious freaks who think they are proving a point by shooting abortion doctors. Like I said, I may agree with some of your views but you are doing absolutely nothing to prove your point by acting like the shitheads that you are.
Why are there so many of those guys in that part of the country?
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Bored, Esq. wrote:
Introvert wrote:Ugh, please don't get me started on (I wish I could do some really sarcastic quote fingers) 'anarchopunks'. The last few days have proven that Portland 'anarchists' are a bunch of fucking loser douchebags. I respect pretty much anyone's right to protest and hell, I might even agree with some of your points, but causing damage and violence to downtown business and innocent bystanders while you have your face covered to protest police issues (that 99% of these fuckheads probably didn't even have any of the facts or details) is fucking cowardly and and just fucking stupid. These fucking losers are right up there with whacko religious freaks who think they are proving a point by shooting abortion doctors. Like I said, I may agree with some of your views but you are doing absolutely nothing to prove your point by acting like the shitheads that you are.
Why are there so many of those guys in that part of the country?
good question; being militant anti-establishment hippies is kind of the Pac NW's MO.
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