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Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:32 pm
by Mari_Mar
I was just giving fbts a hard time. I'll stop.

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:34 pm
by Friendly Goatus
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Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:50 pm
by Friendly Goatus
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/sc ... lasmarain/
Nothing totally mind blowing, just solar eruptions. Excellent high resolution video on the page.

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:59 pm
by cd
:tup: great thread...

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:00 pm
by Friendly Goatus
Oh god, I just got to the part in the plasma rain recording when it all starts falling back into the sun. :what:

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:00 pm
by Necrometer
actually a black hole of personality is pretty spot on

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:03 pm
by riley-o
http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/12lys.html

each subsequent zoom out made my smile a little bit bigger.
SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW
i love the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy books deeply but the machine that kills people with the insignificance of their existence never really resonated with me. i always found the thought incredibly comforting and looking at this just makes my mind vibrate with freedom and joy.

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:12 pm
by Necrometer
riley-o wrote:each subsequent zoom out made my smile a little bit bigger.
because you were getting further and further from the initial zoom that had my name all over it? I guess that's fair...

for serious... are we basically depicted at the center of the universe in that max zoomout? I understand that it says visible universe... so of course it would be from our POV... ah fuck thinking about this

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:17 pm
by fallbacktostone
Friendly Goatus wrote:Oh god, I just got to the part in the plasma rain recording when it all starts falling back into the sun. :what:
im tempted to call the thread off because its so good
Necrometer wrote:actually a black hole of personality is pretty spot on
just stop rossy_mar

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:24 pm
by Mr. Budd
Maybe, but the white ones make more money.

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:28 pm
by Necrometer
fallbacktostone wrote:
Necrometer wrote:actually a black hole of personality is pretty spot on
just stop rossy_mar
black holes:
- attracting
- powerful
- mindbending
- darkest
- incomprehensible
- inescapable
- hypersubstantial

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:32 pm
by Friendly Goatus
What the black holes take in, the white ones spit out.

I ain't getting my dick compressed into a hypersmall cosmic cock without it taking my god damn load.
SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW
more on white holes and the schwarzschild wormholes
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/schww.html

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:47 pm
by pooptastik
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Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:04 pm
by Necrometer
Necrometer wrote:black holes:
- attracting
- powerful
- mindbending
- darkest
- incomprehensible
- inescapable
- hypersubstantial
-might be intelligent

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:06 pm
by riley-o
fallbacktostone wrote:just stop rossy_mar

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:08 pm
by caldwell.the.great
riley-o wrote:http://www.atlasoftheuniverse.com/12lys.html

each subsequent zoom out made my smile a little bit bigger.
SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW
i love the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy books deeply but the machine that kills people with the insignificance of their existence never really resonated with me. i always found the thought incredibly comforting and looking at this just makes my mind vibrate with freedom and joy.
regarding the spoiler:

I'm with you. You gotta remember that Zaphod walks out of the Total Perspective Vortex and eats a piece of cake having thought that the device was created in order to show just how important he was. But it still makes my brain twitch clicking the zoom out button on that website.

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:16 pm
by riley-o
SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW
caldwell.the.great wrote:I'm with you. You gotta remember that Zaphod walks out of the Total Perspective Vortex and eats a piece of cake having thought that the device was created in order to show just how important he was.
that's entirely irrelevant to my point though luke, as i'm simply talking about the idea of insignificance and how it's horrifying to some people and not zaphod or the stories whatsoever. so i would argue i don't gotta remember that, at all...

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:20 pm
by caldwell.the.great
SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW
I'm just saying it could have resonated with you if you'd identified with Zaphod at that point. I'm just getting picky b/c Hitchhiker's Guide is one of my favorite things ever.
anyways, so as to contribute more meaningfully to this thread:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 172648.htm
Could our universe be located within the interior of a wormhole which itself is part of a black hole that lies within a much larger universe? Such a scenario in which the universe is born from inside a wormhole (also called an Einstein-Rosen Bridge) is suggested in a paper from Indiana University theoretical physicist Nikodem Poplawski in Physics Letters B. The final version of the paper was available online March 29 and will be published in the journal edition April 12.

Poplawski takes advantage of the Euclidean-based coordinate system called isotropic coordinates to describe the gravitational field of a black hole and to model the radial geodesic motion of a massive particle into a black hole.
more in the link

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:06 pm
by Friendly Goatus
There's something similar to that in the PDF I linked to in the first post, where they hypothesize that the matter black holes compress and devour could create another miniature universe which is then continued with other black holes that house even smaller universes, ad infinitum. With the addition of white holes and, by association, wormholes it would go both ways.

Why do I even bother with "going to school" or "working" or even "breathing"?

WHY

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:43 pm
by BUNGVOX
Friendly Goatus wrote:Why do I even bother with "going to school" or "working" or even "breathing"?
i wish you'd stop with the breathing part you fucking boner.

you should be stuffed down a black hole.

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:43 pm
by Friendly Goatus
I'm only gonna dignify that with this post.

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:03 pm
by fallbacktostone
Friendly Goatus wrote:There's something similar to that in the PDF I linked to in the first post, where they hypothesize that the matter black holes compress and devour could create another miniature universe which is then continued with other black holes that house even smaller universes, ad infinitum. With the addition of white holes and, by association, wormholes it would go both ways.

Why do I even bother with "going to school" or "working" or even "breathing"?

WHY

aaaahahahahahaha
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Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:30 am
by Krieg
Not really that related, but analyze this:

What we observe is not really "real time" because light needs some time traveling, but the distances are so short in our day to day surrounding that we never perceive the lag.

When we look at the sun we are looking at events that happened some minutes ago.

Now we have those giant telescopes that can observe the other side of the universe, galaxies far far away, but then what you see through the telescope is not actual events, because of the extremely long distances you are observing events that happened thousands, maybe millions, maybe a couple of billions years ago. If you zoom the telescope in and out quite fast, you would be "traveling" in time and watching a 4D video.

Now if someday we manage to travel faster than the light, we just need to put a telescope far enough and we could watch all our history in planet earth. Too bad it will be a video only, without sound.

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:33 am
by Krieg
Friendly Goatus wrote: Why do I even bother with "going to school" or "working" or even "breathing"?

WHY
According to Einstein all time exist at the same time, past present and future. We just "travel" through time (at the speed of the light) while we live so that's why we perceive that time is unfolding.

Re: Black holes might be intelligent

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:55 am
by hooked on sonics
i'm listening to Univers Zero 'Heresie' and it is the perfect soundtrack to this thread.