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Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:11 pm
by Toilet Fleet
pooptastik wrote:
Toilet Fleet wrote:Sure it's basically the Phobophile of their stuff, but experiencing the breakdown of Ylem live

It changes your perspective on some things

Things about death metal mostly
were you at there at MDF3? When they slowed down that breakdown nearly like Corrupted's pace? they didn't do it on this one but still you hit the spot with your statement. that and the amazing riff on Planisphærium.
I was not at all sold on Wormed until I was there for that, then I was like ohhh ffffffffffffwhat was I thinking

That was a good MDF, mens

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:18 pm
by Gay for Cock
:mastoman:

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:48 pm
by altars of radness
Necrometer wrote: best part is from 37:15-38:15
Why? Is that when the guy stops singing?

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:51 pm
by copstache
altars of radness wrote:
Necrometer wrote: best part is from 37:15-38:15
Why? Is that when the guy stops singing?
rrrrrrrrrrrr

rrrrrrrrooooo

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:57 pm
by Teebore
this thread was so full of nice right up until now

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:45 pm
by The Torsion
This song is called 'Deciphering The Undecipherable Holistic Manipulation Equation Calculation'

ONE TWO THREE

BLOOORRRRRRG BLOOOOORRRRRRRRGGGGGG BLOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
tat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat tattat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:51 pm
by The Real MPD
so many untrained ears...

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:41 pm
by Necrometer
but of course

complaining about guttural vocals

in 2011

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:47 pm
by altars of radness
Necrometer wrote:but of course

complaining about guttural vocals

in 2011
No, I think we're complaining about monotonous, predictable, one-trick pony vocals that take away more than they add.

Now, getting excited about super technical death metal with shitty vocals in 2011 -- there's something to be smug about.

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:54 pm
by featherboa
name makes me think of horses

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:06 pm
by This Means War
:tup:

Love this band. Did anything ever surface after that EP they dropped a year or so ago?

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:14 pm
by kmfcm
they have this video of the drummer playing new songs for the album




I haven't heard a thing about how far along they are though


SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW
I think that singer sounds more like the Predator than anyone else who does those vocals

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:30 pm
by CROSTY
floatingfeatherboa wrote:name makes me think of Geodesic Ectoplasmic Dehydrating Horses in the Monochrome

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:43 pm
by TheDrunkTankJudge
Necrometer wrote:you hear brutality,
How is this more brutal or different than Cryptopsy? I've never listened to Wormed before but from the few clips I just heard the riffs and drumming are totally in the same vein. I'll refrain from going on about the vocal style, I've never liked that type of vocal and still don't...

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:59 pm
by CROSTY
dominichorton wrote:How does he do that vocal technique? It's fucking wacky
Image

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:39 am
by Necrometer
Toilet Fleet wrote:experiencing the breakdown of Ylem live

It changes your perspective on some things
totally had-to-be-there bros on this one :rhug: :lhug:
altars of radness wrote:No, I think we're complaining about monotonous, predictable, one-trick pony vocals that take away more than they add.
There's nuance whether or not you care to admit it... and even though this might just be studio trickery, this moment is special:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGY4DfNjKPk&t=3m9s
An instrumental version of this band would work fine for me. I don't think some dude shouting in a heartfelt way would serve the music. It's not like the vocals are overpowering in the mix, right? I'm totally cool stopping talking about this whenever... or am I?

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:03 am
by TheDrunkTankJudge
TheDrunkTankJudge wrote:
Necrometer wrote:you hear brutality,
How is this more brutal or different than Cryptopsy? I've never listened to Wormed before but from the few clips I just heard the riffs and drumming are totally in the same vein..

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:15 am
by Necrometer
there are loads more meter/tempo variations going on here

no guitar solos or "showy" guitar work in general

and if you don't get a very different overall aesthetic vibe from the two bands then I don't know what to tell you

all that is just how it's different from Cryptopsy (and from a lot of death metal) - I don't give a fuck if they're the brutallest band in the universe or anything... the thing you quoted me about the brutality was just a joke comment in response to copstache claiming he couldn't "see" the brutality

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:57 am
by The Real MPD
Chunnel of Ions

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:08 am
by altars of radness
Necrometer wrote:There's nuance whether or not you care to admit it... and even though this might just be studio trickery, this moment is special:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGY4DfNjKPk&t=3m9s
An instrumental version of this band would work fine for me. I don't think some dude shouting in a heartfelt way would serve the music. It's not like the vocals are overpowering in the mix, right? I'm totally cool stopping talking about this whenever... or am I?
Man, I like the music a lot. There aren't many techy/rhythm-slaughtering bands that manage to maintain the kind of momentum Wormed does. I just have the same problem with them that I have with Inquisition and had with Demilich: clearly a ton of work has gone into making the music as unique and heavy as possible, but there doesn't seem to be any thought at all put into the vocals. The more I listen to any of those bands the less of an issue it becomes, but I still think it's stupid.

Regarding an instrumental version of this working, I have my doubts. People say that all the time about bands like this, but I think if you took out the vox on something like Wormed you'd be left with something even harder to relate to than it already is. The vox do add a bit of humanity to it. Maybe it's supposed to sound like an alien's clogged asshole, but it's always going to be some dude. But I really think the reason a lot of these bands get vocalists is because the average metalhead isn't interested in buying an instrumental dm record.

I'm with Lon on the Cryptopsy thing. "Geodesic Dome" is basically None So Vile played in three and a half minutes.

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:51 am
by TF@work
I do not see the Cryptopsy thing at alllll

They're both fast and play death metal, so there's that

Maybe if like you mean a less shitty latter-day Cryptopsy? Even so

Nah, you guys are just bonkers

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:36 am
by Necrometer
altars of radness wrote:Man, I like the music a lot. There aren't many techy/rhythm-slaughtering bands that manage to maintain the kind of momentum Wormed does. I just have the same problem with them that I have with Inquisition and had with Demilich: clearly a ton of work has gone into making the music as unique and heavy as possible, but there doesn't seem to be any thought at all put into the vocals. The more I listen to any of those bands the less of an issue it becomes, but I still think it's stupid.
OK, I won't argue at you any more about this one - once you put them in the same bin with Demilich I completely see where you're coming from. And that's cool. Even though I can love Vader's Litany with that techno bass drum, I know Mikehamster will never, ever get past it... and I won't argue at him either.

If we're going to be comparing to things, I think WORMED is most accurately a ridiculously primal version of Spawn of Possession... the guitar work is id'd out and so are the vocals. It clicks for me. And yeah if SoP had ultra-guttural inhaled spacepigfart vox it would be stupid. It's not like they're universally good vocals - I just like them a lot in context.

Overwrought compositions contrasted with sub-caveman textures, then finished off with extra-musical elements about inhuman science topics from the smallest to largest scales? Can't resist.

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:55 am
by TheDrunkTankJudge
TF@work wrote:I do not see the Cryptopsy thing at alllll

They're both fast and play death metal, so there's that

Maybe if like you mean a less shitty latter-day Cryptopsy? Even so

Nah, you guys are just bonkers
Like I said earlier I'm just basing my opinion on the two clips I heard here.
The song Undeciphering The Inquantificability has parts that sound totally like Cryptopsy circa And Then You'll Beg. Tunnel of Ions not so much...

for comparison...


Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:01 am
by Necrometer
at least you're comparing nu to nu

but FWIW that CD-single is not what to listen to

needs more of this guy

Re: WORMED live, full set

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:10 pm
by copstache
but i like Demilich's vocals!

ok, not really but they're semi-appropriate for the music