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Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:46 pm
by ThePhillyExperiment
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bar-closing- ... 49175.html

This bar is in Bayview, the polar opposite of MAGA, and there's no way in hell you'd see someone from the RNC over in a Bayview bar, so they're just losing money for nothing.

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:39 am
by Brutus Frank
Judicial Watch: Records Show CIA Deployed Bomb Techs, Dog Teams to DC on January 6

https://www.judicialwatch.org/cia-bomb-techs-january-6/

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:11 am
by godofdeadlydeath
Hunter wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:01 am Republicans haven't been able to win shit since the abortion ruling by the Supreme Court. While I think Joe Biden is the absolute worst candidate Dems could run, I'd be very surprised if Trump can win. I don't think there's many pro-Biden voters, but I think there's a fuck ton of anti-Trump and women's rights voters. As long as abortion is on the ballot, I just don't see a path for Trump - and we know that Dems have been working hard to make sure of that. But even so, it will probably be close.

Sure would be nice if these old fucks would give it up finally, but boomers gotta boom.
Yeah I think we're going to see a record low turnout and Trump will still lose

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:55 pm
by ThePhillyExperiment
What's truly hurting Trump is the "Never Trumper" and Reagan Republicans. Trump may get 60-70% of Republicans, but that's current Republicans. Republicans as a whole has decreased over the years. The GOP can't really claim a bad economy anymore, so now the only thing they can focus on that is not extreme MAGA policies is immigration. But that fearmongering won't offset the fear of Trump policies.

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:14 am
by THE KILL
It's nice to see yanks being optimistic about these things for a change.

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:07 am
by Brutus Frank
Yep, the GOP sure isn't gonna be able to talk about the economy, and the supreme court striking diwn RvW is definitely gonna make people vote Biden.

Oh, wait













https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/20/opin ... oters.html

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:18 am
by Hunter
How can the GOP lose when they have winning policies like this:

House Republican budget calls for raising the retirement age for Social Security

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republican-budget-raise-age-retirement-social-security-medicare-rcna144341
A budget by the Republican Study Committee, a group of more than 170 GOP lawmakers, highlights how many in the party would seek to govern if Republicans win in November.

WASHINGTON — A new budget by a large and influential group of House Republicans calls for raising the Social Security retirement age for future retirees and restructuring Medicare.

...

The budget was released Wednesday by the Republican Study Committee, a group of more than 170 House GOP lawmakers, including many allies of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump. Apart from fiscal policy, the budget endorses a series of bills “designed to advance the cause of life,” including the Life at Conception Act, which would aggressively restrict abortion and potentially threaten in vitro fertilization, or IVF, by establishing legal protections for human beings at “the moment of fertilization.” It has recently caused consternation within the GOP following backlash to an Alabama Supreme Court ruling that threatened IVF.

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:39 am
by featherboa
I'm still stressed unless a new toilet fleet analysis comes out and still then

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:16 am
by Toilet Fleet
Biden's team will be smarter than Killary's team and put money and effort into the midwest, and he's got the remaining union vote pretty locked up

But considering the obvious and huge enthusiasm gap, he'd better be praying for an indian summer because any inconvenience will disproportionately impact Sleepy Joe's turnout

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:54 pm
by Brutus Frank

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:31 pm
by cxwx


Why the fuck are TP USA members even allowed on campus? Do the Koch's just dump millions into the deans laps or have picture of them fucking Pomeranians or Puerto Ricans?

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:13 am
by godofdeadlydeath
Brings a fucking golden retriever onstage with him! What a fucking loser.

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:23 am
by Brutus Frank
MUH STATE LINES!

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:29 am
by Hunter
cxwx wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:31 pm [Kyle Rittenhouse vid]

Why the fuck are TP USA members even allowed on campus? Do the Koch's just dump millions into the deans laps or have picture of them fucking Pomeranians or Puerto Ricans?
TPUSA events aren't prohibited because they're sponsored by student orgs, so if a college were step in to prevent them, they'd be hit with 1st Amendment lawsuits. It's exploited by TPUSA in order to generate free press coverage by sending the most controversial people to speak, get shut down, then cry about freedom of speech. They want to badly to be seen as oppressed - they don't have anything real or interesting to say other than standard talking points you've heard a million times.
godofdeadlydeath wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:13 am Brings a fucking golden retriever onstage with him! What a fucking loser.
That dog and presumably his parents are the only beings on the planet that like him as a person - to everyone else he's a villain or politically useful. He'll lose that usefulness in a few years and probably end up selling the gun (if he still has it), like George Zimmerman.

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:43 am
by Brutus Frank
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Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:55 pm
by Brutus Frank
I always figured Mr. Leibowitz for a schlimazel, but holy shit between getting cancelled by his team for being honest about the covid lab and him giviing a medal to a nazi, and now this, it's been all schlemiel all the time for him lately.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/27/real-esta ... me-by-829/

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:44 pm
by Geeheeb
This is absolutely asinine reporting from Tim Pool and the NY Post if they had bothered to look into this.

In Michigan the state assessed value is estimated to be about 50% of the market worth of a house. So a $200,000 house would likely have an assessed value of $100,000 and that is what your property taxes are based on. Reassessment of this can lag years behind rise in property value. I believe you are also a property owner, but it may be different in your area? If you think I'm interpreting this incorrectly please let me know.

I had to look this up for New York, but it took me just a minute because the website they have has a pretty straightforward answer, I was a little surprised by the answer (differences from MI to NYC) but by no means am I an expert in real estate, let alone NYC real estate: https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kan ... ach%20year.
Market Value

The Department of Finance (DOF) determines your property's tax classification based on requirements set out in New York State Real Property Tax Law. Depending on the tax class, market values are determined based on an analysis of sales, income data, or the cost of reproducing the building.

Tax Class 1: DOF uses sale prices of similar properties in similar neighborhoods to determine market value.
Tax Class 2: Are valued using income and expense information filed by owners, as appropriately adjusted, or comparable income and expenses of similar buildings. Co-ops and condos are valued as if they are income-producing, based on income and expenses sourced from similar rental buildings.
Tax Class 4: Commercial or industrial property

Assessed Value

After estimating the market value, the Department of Finance calculates the assessed value by multiplying the market value by the assessment percentage. The assessment percentage is a fixed percentage of market value. For class 1 properties, it’s 6%. For class 2 and 4 properties, it’s 45%.
So if his home is not a condo or commercial property, it would be assessed at 6% of its market value by NYC.

$17,500,000 * .06 = $1,050,000 which is certainly more than the $847,174 listed by the NYC but two things:

1) State assessed values can lag by years (in my experience), especially for properties that have not changed hands for years).
2) Yes the property was listed for $17,500,000 but really the seller paying the selling price is the person actually setting the value to the seller once they agree on the final amount. People put crazy asking prices up all the time and the house sits forever, not saying that is what is happening here but maybe?

This is not my endorsement of Stewart or assessment systems or taxation or real estate, but I don't think Jon Stewart is committing real estate fraud.

Brutus Frank wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:55 pm I always figured Mr. Leibowitz for a schlimazel, but holy shit between getting cancelled by his team for being honest about the covid lab and him giviing a medal to a nazi, and now this, it's been all schlemiel all the time for him lately.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/27/real-esta ... me-by-829/

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:51 pm
by cxwx
Geeheeb wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:44 pm This is absolutely asinine reporting from Tim Pool and the NY Post if they had bothered to look into this.

In Michigan the state assessed value is estimated to be about 50% of the market worth of a house. So a $200,000 house would likely have an assessed value of $100,000 and that is what your property taxes are based on. Reassessment of this can lag years behind rise in property value. I believe you are also a property owner, but it may be different in your area? If you think I'm interpreting this incorrectly please let me know.

I had to look this up for New York, but it took me just a minute because the website they have has a pretty straightforward answer, I was a little surprised by the answer (differences from MI to NYC) but by no means am I an expert in real estate, let alone NYC real estate: https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kan ... ach%20year.
Market Value

The Department of Finance (DOF) determines your property's tax classification based on requirements set out in New York State Real Property Tax Law. Depending on the tax class, market values are determined based on an analysis of sales, income data, or the cost of reproducing the building.

Tax Class 1: DOF uses sale prices of similar properties in similar neighborhoods to determine market value.
Tax Class 2: Are valued using income and expense information filed by owners, as appropriately adjusted, or comparable income and expenses of similar buildings. Co-ops and condos are valued as if they are income-producing, based on income and expenses sourced from similar rental buildings.
Tax Class 4: Commercial or industrial property

Assessed Value

After estimating the market value, the Department of Finance calculates the assessed value by multiplying the market value by the assessment percentage. The assessment percentage is a fixed percentage of market value. For class 1 properties, it’s 6%. For class 2 and 4 properties, it’s 45%.
So if his home is not a condo or commercial property, it would be assessed at 6% of its market value by NYC.

$17,500,000 * .06 = $1,050,000 which is certainly more than the $847,174 listed by the NYC but two things:

1) State assessed values can lag by years (in my experience), especially for properties that have not changed hands for years).
2) Yes the property was listed for $17,500,000 but really the seller paying the selling price is the person actually setting the value to the seller once they agree on the final amount. People put crazy asking prices up all the time and the house sits forever, not saying that is what is happening here but maybe?

This is not my endorsement of Stewart or assessment systems or taxation or real estate, but I don't think Jon Stewart is committing real estate fraud.

Brutus Frank wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:55 pm I always figured Mr. Leibowitz for a schlimazel, but holy shit between getting cancelled by his team for being honest about the covid lab and him giviing a medal to a nazi, and now this, it's been all schlemiel all the time for him lately.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/27/real-esta ... me-by-829/
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Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:43 pm
by ThePhillyExperiment
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/djt

It's going to be hilarious when this stock gets shorted into the Mariana trench, reverse stock split, delisted then trading on the OTC. When Trump eventually sells his shares they'll be work $600k, then he can hire 2 porn stars to play with his mushroom kingdom peener.

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:40 pm
by Brutus Frank
Geeheeb wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:44 pm

2) Yes the property was listed for $17,500,000 but really the seller paying the selling price is the person actually setting the value to the seller once they agree on the final amount. People put crazy asking prices up all the time and the house sits forever, not saying that is what is happening here but maybe?
https://nypost.com/2014/11/06/jon-stewa ... MS4wLjAuMA..


"The political funny­man and social critic just sold his sprawling downtown duplex penthouse at 161 Hudson St., on the eighth and ninth floors, in what appears to be an off-market deal for $17.5 million."

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:42 pm
by Brutus Frank
Funniest part of the 2014 article about the sale:

"He was once considered a tax delinquent by the New York Department of State, which issued liens against him and wife Tracey in 2007 and 2008 for not paying their taxes in full, according to the Daily Caller."

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:21 pm
by featherboa
In califörnia, property never gets re-assessed unless it's sold. Old people are paying 1980s type property taxes. But whatever I guess they need shelter too...

Allegedly this applies to commercial real estate as well. But you don't need to buy commercial real estate, you buy the LLC that owns it or whatever. Cool system.

I'm probably wrong about all of this but I almost fell asleep just typing it out. ZzzzZZZ taxes BORING

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:40 am
by Geeheeb
Brutus Frank wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:40 pm
Geeheeb wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:44 pm

2) Yes the property was listed for $17,500,000 but really the seller paying the selling price is the person actually setting the value to the seller once they agree on the final amount. People put crazy asking prices up all the time and the house sits forever, not saying that is what is happening here but maybe?
https://nypost.com/2014/11/06/jon-stewa ... MS4wLjAuMA..


"The political funny­man and social critic just sold his sprawling downtown duplex penthouse at 161 Hudson St., on the eighth and ninth floors, in what appears to be an off-market deal for $17.5 million."
I don't understand, are you agreeing with me? Penthouse was sold for what appears to be asking price. How is that anything like what is suggested in the first article you posted? How is that anything like misrepresenting the value of something that you are borrowing against - not selling outright? Please help me understand.

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:03 am
by Hunter
::Laughs in links to clickbait::

::Laughs harder in NY Post Newspaper font::

::Rolls over laughing in self-hatred::

Re: TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED! TRUMP FIRED!

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:07 am
by Brutus Frank
I mean Stewart bought it for 5.8 million in 2005, paid taxes on a rate of $740k per year, sold it for 17.5 million, and the guy who bought it took a $4mil bath 5 years later selling it at 13.5 million. The most the NY state gov ever valued it at was 1.3 mil.

Am I agreeing with you?