America is so fucking stupid
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America is so fucking stupid
for instance...the beauty of Japanese resistance...quelled only by the barbarism of Hiroshima...nuking cities, America glosses over
yet "Americans" see themselves as victors
these Americans Imagine they had something to do with defeating Germany in WW2, but it was just the material FDR sent
FUCK AMERICA
I'm sick and unable to travel, but I wanted to die on land that was not American
alas...
yet "Americans" see themselves as victors
these Americans Imagine they had something to do with defeating Germany in WW2, but it was just the material FDR sent
FUCK AMERICA
I'm sick and unable to travel, but I wanted to die on land that was not American
alas...
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What was Japanese resistance? War-shinto?
What was barbarism if not for the rape of Nanking, what they did in Korea and elsewhere?
They were undoubtedly better off with their established cultural traditions than with sailor moon pedophile mcdonalds corporate nihilism, but I think they got smacked down so brutally because they went out of balance. They weren't 'resisting' anything, the world resisted them.
I don't even know what to do with this
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Re: America is so fucking stupid
What kind of response to pearl harbor would a radical romantic/traditionalist prescribe?
Reading a book about ancient Persian dervishes and complaining?
Reading a book about ancient Persian dervishes and complaining?
livid dealer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:31 am DIO NEVER JUMPED ON WHAT WAS POPULAR (THE PROVERBIAL BANDWAGON)
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it is known (non-jokingly) that FDR manipulated US into WW2...
he knew about impending pearl harbor attack
it was the beginning of our new world order
he knew about impending pearl harbor attack
it was the beginning of our new world order
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demand the end. it is all we ask...honesty. burning, lasting honesty.
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I know Bronze Age Pervert...he is nice...but we all just live
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so you don't answer my question, and then go two layers deep into conspiracy-fantasy in an act of evasion. Sweet.
CHAD I LOVE YOU BUT YOU ALWAYS REFUSE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR CLARIFY YOUR STATEMENTS AT ALL
IM JUST TRYING TO TALK TO YOU HERE
STOP BEING A SECRET WIZARD, ACCEPT CHALLENGES
livid dealer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:31 am DIO NEVER JUMPED ON WHAT WAS POPULAR (THE PROVERBIAL BANDWAGON)
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I remember Nevets describing everything bad about the United States being amplified in Japan and any culture the nation had being completely depleted and sucked dry decade ago. I believed he described it as the only place on earth where you can be in a crowd of thousands of people and feel absolutely alone.
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I don't know what the appropriate response should be. bronze age pervert is actually amazing, and if youth connect with that...great
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if not, it dies
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if not, it dies
it's important to realize how final death is
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Re: America is so fucking stupid
SECRET WIZARD
livid dealer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:31 am DIO NEVER JUMPED ON WHAT WAS POPULAR (THE PROVERBIAL BANDWAGON)
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Re: America is so fucking stupid
Just get to the part where you say the Jews did Pearl Harbor, Chad. Cut the foreplay already.
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4. I'm gay and my dick is small and my balls are too
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livid dealer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:31 am DIO NEVER JUMPED ON WHAT WAS POPULAR (THE PROVERBIAL BANDWAGON)
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Re: America is so fucking stupid
Yeah I was going to say, the Japanese inability to admit defeat was fed by the fascist and imperialist Japanese ideology that reigned at that time, and it's nothing that should be romanticized. Among else, forcing the inhabitants of the Ryukyu islands (Okinawa, which had been its own kingdom since the 1870s until it was annexed by the mainland Japanese) to commit suicide so they would not be "dishonoured" by surrendering to the enemy was hardly "beautiful".Eight Bit Alien wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:58 pmWhat was Japanese resistance? War-shinto?
What was barbarism if not for the rape of Nanking, what they did in Korea and elsewhere?
They were undoubtedly better off with their established cultural traditions than with sailor moon pedophile mcdonalds corporate nihilism, but I think they got smacked down so brutally because they went out of balance. They weren't 'resisting' anything, the world resisted them.
EBA: In the context of fascist Japan, it's not that easy to say what the "established cultural norms" actually were - the military government's propaganda plugged into romantic notions of self-sacrifice found in or projected onto Bushido, but grossly distorted what it meant for example to be a samurai. Under Tokugawa rule (starting at the beginning of the 17th century!), the samurai, as a social class, quickly became bureaucrats who spent most of their time gambling and hanging out in whorehouses. Bhuddism, which definitely was an integral part of Japanese culture, was painted as anti-Japanese due to its peaceful ideology, and Shinto was warped into State Shinto, which became less of a religious and more of a nationalist ideology.
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Can't believe you people still bother with this conspiracy.txt loser
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I agree /w pretty much everything yer saying. I didn't get into it too much but I guess I was saying that Japan's troubles started because of an initial, self-generated distortion of tradition, not the day someone showed up to change those traditions. I think both things seem to have caused problems to say the least*.THE KILL wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:51 am EBA: In the context of fascist Japan, it's not that easy to say what the "established cultural norms" actually were - the military government's propaganda plugged into romantic notions of self-sacrifice found in or projected onto Bushido, but grossly distorted what it meant for example to be a samurai. Under Tokugawa rule (starting at the beginning of the 17th century!), the samurai, as a social class, quickly became bureaucrats who spent most of their time gambling and hanging out in whorehouses. Bhuddism, which definitely was an integral part of Japanese culture, was painted as anti-Japanese due to its peaceful ideology, and Shinto was warped into State Shinto, which became less of a religious and more of a nationalist ideology.
Also I don't know anything about Japan whatsoever, or even history really, I'm just some strange retarded guy with headphones on. I don't know why I even talk about anything, I only really understand Frankenstein movies. I just really like talking to Chad.
The idea of tradition is obviously wacky anyway, these threads are a funny thing because I always try to start inside Chad's house (using my interpretation of his perspective as a starting point).
The weirdest part about considering radical romantic nationalism (or whatever you want to call this thing Japan and Germany did) in modern times is trying to remember that what these people did with themselves was always diametrically opposed to what they said their principles were. I still don't really understand how we got to the point where weird kids in the modern world are digesting and deeply internalizing vintage propaganda-ideology from dead states, but once Twitter started filling up with actual first world neo-soviets and nazi-anime-avatars I started thinking about this stuff a lot.
I get to a point sometimes where in considering these positions, I start taking them at face value without realizing it - playing devil's advocate and going, "Okay so this guy thinks we should have a brutal dictatorship of the noble proletariat, so why do I say we shouldn't? Then this other guy says that ethnicity is the base unit of a civilization, why should I say that's a bad idea?" and like weeks will go by thinking about that, before I remember that the working class in the USSR had no power at all, and what happened in Germany had no basis in cultural tradition whatsoever and all of their ideas about ancient authenticity were totally new and fake.
So the people who are talking about this stuff really are totally lost in foggy idea-world.
* Yes I will fence-sit this question and nobody can stop me
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Re: America is so fucking stupid
chad is a noble soulToilet Fleet wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:21 am Can't believe you people still bother with this conspiracy.txt loser
the day his drops stop appearing on my screen will be a sad one
livid dealer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:31 am DIO NEVER JUMPED ON WHAT WAS POPULAR (THE PROVERBIAL BANDWAGON)
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