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Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:38 pm**

Uh.....Thales?

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:41 pm**

Aristotle yo.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:44 pm**

I always assumed it either meant Rick Rozz was a permavirgin or someone in Cynic was gay and in the closet.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:55 pm**

termites

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:10 pm**

It was Chuck, duh.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:26 pm**

If I had to guess, I would say it was Paul.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:52 pm**

Phil Rudd

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:59 pm**

pretty sure it was KRS

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:05 am**

You know, I had always assumed it was an imaginary person...? Like 'fuck you, This Type Of Person', not really a specific dude.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:17 am**

james wrote:You know, I had always assumed it was an imaginary person...? Like 'fuck you, This Type Of Person', not really a specific dude.

Back when the album came out there were people saying that it was about a specific person, and that it was pretty obvious (and extremely insulting, hence why I think the "you don't know your own sexuality" line is what this is really about) who he was talking about if you were in the know. If anything I'm a bit surprised that it's not common knowledge who it was by now.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:22 am**

I'm a baby

honestly I probably would have no idea who the person was, were they named specifically in the song

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:36 am**

james wrote: honestly I probably would have no idea who the person was, were they named specifically in the song

That's what Metal Archives is for. I was 16 when Individual Thought Patterns came out, and it was pre-internet for me, so all I got was a few people making vague allusions in magazine interviews that they knew who Chuck was talking about and that they really didn't think it was right to put it in a song lyric. So I'm assuming it was someone who was in the band at some point, and I'd think a number of these guys you'd have heard of too.

It's kind of funny now that I think about it, everyone talks about Chuck like he was a saint now, but back in the early 90s, his reputation was basically that he was a whiny bitch and impossible to work with. I guess he just mellowed out a lot later.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:49 am**

spacehamster wrote:
james wrote:It's kind of funny now that I think about it, everyone talks about Chuck like he was a saint now, but back in the early 90s, his reputation was basically that he was a whiny bitch and impossible to work with. I guess ~~he just mellowed out a lot later~~ folks forgot that after he died and was crowned "Saint Technical Life Metal".

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:01 am**

As I recall, everyone stopped hatin' on Chuck around the time Symbolic came out.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:52 pm**

Posted: **Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:37 pm**

Were Beavis & Butthead only into cool metal (e.g. whiny Chuck) or just dumb kids liking dumb metal?

Posted: **Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:51 pm**

I dont understand your question

Posted: **Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:08 pm**

They did not like the philosopher...
Because Mike Judge knew Chuck was a whiny bitch?
Or because he wrote them to be dumb kids liking dumb stuff?

Just wondering how he chose what music they liked, and which ones they didn't like.

Posted: **Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:47 pm**

spacehamster wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:17 am
james wrote:You know, I had always assumed it was an imaginary person...? Like 'fuck you, This Type Of Person', not really a specific dude.
Back when the album came out there were people saying that it was about a specific person, and that it was pretty obvious (and extremely insulting, hence why I think the "you don't know your own sexuality" line is what this is really about) who he was talking about if you were in the know. If anything I'm a bit surprised that it's not common knowledge who it was by now.

Haven't former members of Death explicitly stated it was infact about Paul from Cynic?

Posted: **Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:58 pm**

cxwx wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:47 pm
spacehamster wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:17 am
james wrote:You know, I had always assumed it was an imaginary person...? Like 'fuck you, This Type Of Person', not really a specific dude.
Back when the album came out there were people saying that it was about a specific person, and that it was pretty obvious (and extremely insulting, hence why I think the "you don't know your own sexuality" line is what this is really about) who he was talking about if you were in the know. If anything I'm a bit surprised that it's not common knowledge who it was by now.
Haven't former members of Death explicitly stated it was infact about Paul from Cynic?

Masvidal left before the album was recorded, so it fits.

Posted: **Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:05 pm**

Necrophilic Mallard wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:08 pm They did not like the philosopher...
Because Mike Judge knew Chuck was a whiny bitch?
Or because he wrote them to be dumb kids liking dumb stuff?

Just wondering how he chose what music they liked, and which ones they didn't like.

From my time studying the subject, I've concluded that Beavis and Butthead usually dislike things that "suck", while conversely approving of things that "rule", "kick ass" or are "cool".

Posted: **Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:11 pm**

james, are you agitated?

Posted: **Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:20 pm**

I'm just sad about Chuck, okay

Posted: **Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:02 pm**

Lord Hitler

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