While I understand their appeal and aren’t exactly nails on a chalkboard Television has always bored me to tears. Part of their annoyance is slightly irrational as I’ve always found both them and Talking Heads as bands most responsible for defanging punk rock, thus pleasing the critics and ultimately influencing the shit show that was new wave.
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What bands are included in the new wave shit show? Are we talking Devo, The Cars, The B-52s or are you thinking Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, etc? I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from here.hipster holocaust wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:38 amWhile I understand their appeal and aren’t exactly nails on a chalkboard Television has always bored me to tears. Part of their annoyance is slightly irrational as I’ve always found both them and Talking Heads as bands most responsible for defanging punk rock, thus pleasing the critics and ultimately influencing the shit show that was new wave.

I came around pretty late on Television, but I listened to a lot of punk and Talking Heads as a kid. New Wave was like a catch all term that included Punk, Art Rock, 2nd wave ska, etc. It changed over the years, so just wondering how you define new wave.
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If you still look back and in earnest were exited about the mtv version of this exciting period, I’m not going to shit in your cerealHunter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:51 pmWhat bands are included in the new wave shit show? Are we talking Devo, The Cars, The B-52s or are you thinking Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, etc? I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from here.hipster holocaust wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:38 amWhile I understand their appeal and aren’t exactly nails on a chalkboard Television has always bored me to tears. Part of their annoyance is slightly irrational as I’ve always found both them and Talking Heads as bands most responsible for defanging punk rock, thus pleasing the critics and ultimately influencing the shit show that was new wave.
I came around pretty late on Television, but I listened to a lot of punk and Talking Heads as a kid. New Wave was like a catch all term that included Punk, Art Rock, 2nd wave ska, etc. It changed over the years, so just wondering how you define new wave.
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Punk rock needed to be de-fanged. It had turned into a cartoon thanks to idiots like Sid Vicious.hipster holocaust wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:38 amWhile I understand their appeal and aren’t exactly nails on a chalkboard Television has always bored me to tears. Part of their annoyance is slightly irrational as I’ve always found both them and Talking Heads as bands most responsible for defanging punk rock, thus pleasing the critics and ultimately influencing the shit show that was new wave.
I wish it had been Johnny Rotten that had died instead.
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