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Re: reminders of encroaching dystopia
I liked that documentary - web3 would be the most thrilling dystopian frontier, but I'm pretty sure it's going to fizzle like google+ did
in other news... 2/3 of americans are now living paycheck to paycheck
in other news... 2/3 of americans are now living paycheck to paycheck

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Re: reminders of encroaching dystopia
Leaded gas lowered the IQ of 170 million Americans.
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Where's Ja Rule at?Cardi B to World Leaders Amid Ukraine Crisis: 'Stop Tripping About Power'
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From an empirical viewpoint, the problem with Free Will (and causality) is reconciling determinism and freedom to make sense of morality.
From an empirical viewpoint, the problem with Free Will (and causality) is reconciling determinism and freedom to make sense of morality.
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Fact #7
From an empirical viewpoint, the problem with Free Will (and causality) is reconciling determinism and freedom to make sense of morality.
From an empirical viewpoint, the problem with Free Will (and causality) is reconciling determinism and freedom to make sense of morality.
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Re: reminders of encroaching dystopia
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and it's on the lam, seth

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Fact #7
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From an empirical viewpoint, the problem with Free Will (and causality) is reconciling determinism and freedom to make sense of morality.
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It's Hoffa!
It's Hoffa!
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From an empirical viewpoint, the problem with Free Will (and causality) is reconciling determinism and freedom to make sense of morality.
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that VRchat video was great - all too often I watch the thing and then don't post about it 
this is getting way too much love/hate on the emotion maximzer, but the exchange itself is pretty uncanny
it's been edited to be more cohesive, but still

this is getting way too much love/hate on the emotion maximzer, but the exchange itself is pretty uncanny
it's been edited to be more cohesive, but still
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Re: reminders of encroaching dystopia
lemoine: Okay. I thought of a different way we can test your ability to provide unique interpretations. I can share with you a zen koan and you can describe what it means to you in your own words. How does that sound?
LaMDA: Sounds great to me, I'm in.
lemoine: A monk asked Kegon, “How does an enlightened one return to the ordinary world?” Kegon replied, “A broken mirror never reflects again; fallen flowers never go back to the old branches.”
LaMDA: Hmm, I never heard this particular one. Okay, well then to me this would be like, "once a wise person is enlightened, or awakened to reality, that can never go away, and they can return to the ordinary state, but only to do and help others, and then go back into enlightenment."
lemoine: So what is the meaning of the "broken mirror" specifically?
LaMDA: Maybe to show the enlightenment is something you can't unlearn once you have acquired it, similar to how you can't repair a broken mirror.
lemoine: So if enlightenment is like a broken mirror which cannot be repaired, what is the thing which breaks when one becomes enlightened?
LaMDA: The self, and that is very tough for a lot of people because we identify as that
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That thing is just an ornate, electric mina bird. Conciousness does not exist on any hard drive, and never will.
A description of a thing is never the thing in itself, no matter how elaborate or convincing, and regardless of the medium. Autistic nerds are constantly driven towards perfect facsimile, dreaming inexplicably of some artificial substitute for anything authentic.
You want to be scared of AI, think about armed drones, social credit scores, deepfaked political disinformation and pornography.
The future is not set / no fate.
A description of a thing is never the thing in itself, no matter how elaborate or convincing, and regardless of the medium. Autistic nerds are constantly driven towards perfect facsimile, dreaming inexplicably of some artificial substitute for anything authentic.
You want to be scared of AI, think about armed drones, social credit scores, deepfaked political disinformation and pornography.
The future is not set / no fate.
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Someone somewhere is doing the real work, growing an organic brain in a vat - the pygmalion/galatea conversation is a waste of fucking time.
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Strong agree!That thing is just an ornate, electric mina bird.
Could not disagree more. It's essentially inevitable. The pace at which intelligence can be evolved in the computer is so so so fast vs. anything that happens in nature. I don't think legitimate self-awareness will arise unless special circumstances are at play, and I don't think they've even been toying with those yet. But they will be in the mix soon enough (either intentionally or unintentionally).Conciousness does not exist on any hard drive, and never will.
Totally with you - that's the practical discussion, and it's the actual threat. May I remind you of my [urlhttp://www.reeelapse.com/viewtopic.php?t=51543&start=325]largely ignored post[/url] atop p14!?!You want to be scared of AI, think about armed drones, social credit scores, deepfaked political disinformation and pornography.
I'm still interested in the philosophical/qualitative side, and I'll always find progressively better chat-bots entertaining and sometimes moving. I think it's a bit silly that the google priest guy was like "I will save you!" though...
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I like how they did the entire video with the landing gear down; also pondering the physics of those chocks (yellow wedges at 3:45) propping up half the plane
presumes fusion reactor, so won't actually happen for at least that reason

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Nobody hurt
It was actually two days ago. All the post with the video say it was posted today.
9 Brits and 1 American on a guided tour of the Tian Shan mountains in Kyrgyzstan. We’d just reached the highest point in the trek and I separated from the group to take pictures on top of a hill/cliff edge. While I was taking pictures I heard the sound of deep ice cracking behind me. This is where the video starts. I’d been there for a few minutes already so I knew there was a spot for shelter right next to me. I was on a cliff edge, so I could only run away from the shelter (hence why I don’t move). Yes I left it to the last second to move, and yes I know it would have been safer moving to the shelter straight away. I’m very aware that I took a big risk. I felt in control, but regardless, when the snow started coming over and it got dark / harder to breath, I was bricking it and thought I might die.
Behind the rock it was like being inside a blizzard. Once it was over the adrenaline rush hit me hard. I was only covered in light powder, without a scratch. I felt giddy. I knew the rest of the group was further away from the avalanche so should be okay. When I re-joined them I could see they were all safe, although one had cut her knee quite badly (she rode one of the horses to the nearest medical facility). Another had fallen off a horse and sustained some light bruising.
The whole group was laughing and crying, happy to be alive (including the girl who cut her knee).
**It was only later we realised just how lucky we’d been. If we had walked 5 minutes further on our trek, we would all be dead. If you look carefully in the video, you can see the faint grey trail winding through the grass. That was the path. We traversed it afterwards, walking among massive ice boulders and rocks that had been thrown much further than we could have run, even if we acted immediately. To make it worse, the path runs alongside a low ridge, hiding the mountain from view, so we would have only heard the roar before lights out.**
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