does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:23 pm
by FVBTVS
or Neurosis that isn't tedious and even more depressing
I'm not afraid to admit I'm devastated
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:00 pm
by kevin hash
Never gave a shit about Neurosis.
I think the idea that he feels the need to retire from music to be fucking dumb. There are a ton of drugged up women beating assholes in music. But whatever.....drink some more you fucking bum.
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:11 pm
by Eight Bit Alien
I've never really listened to the band. I read his admission in an article, and was pretty suprised by it. I don't think I've ever seen someone detail a list of offenses like that in the first person. I guess maybe in cases like this the perpetrator is generally denying things or refusing responsibility?
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 8:06 pm
by pooptastik
it's fucked up but I'm relieved that it's not Scott Ruth. I was sincerely thinking that all the lyrics he wrote were inspired from using his family as a punching bag.
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:37 pm
by MPD
condolences, good friends.
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:17 am
by Hunter
Neurosis lost me with A Sun That Never Sets when I watched the dvd. Here I was - real geeked on them having absorbed some Eyehategod-isms into their TSIB sound after a tour together... and they put out a naval-gazing, mopey, soul searching album that would end up being a post-hardcore blueprint that many other groups spawned from. There's a few bands of that ilk that I enjoy and it's not to say that the Neurosis stuff was BAD... It just never clicked for me.
It's obvious to everyone that the abuse started when I stopped liking them, and their music is 100% indisputable evidence of that.
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:36 am
by pooptastik
Hunter wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:17 am
Neurosis lost me with A Sun That Never Sets when I watched the dvd. Here I was - real geeked on them having absorbed some Eyehategod-isms into their TSIB sound after a tour together... and they put out a naval-gazing, mopey, soul searching album that would end up being a post-hardcore blueprint that many other groups spawned from. There's a few bands of that ilk that I enjoy and it's not to say that the Neurosis stuff was BAD... It just never clicked for me.
It's obvious to everyone that the abuse started when I stopped liking them, and their music is 100% indisputable evidence of that.
you were his muse.
when you lost interest, he lost the spark. you're a home wrecker, hunter.
his family got the terminal punishment that they deserved.
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:18 pm
by the awesome Assassin
A man with two 1st names is a ticking time bomb...
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:38 pm
by kevin hash
the awesome Assassin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:18 pm
A man with two 1st names is a ticking time bomb...
Go fuck yourself. You are a drugged up loser.
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:30 pm
by FVBTVS
Eight Bit Alien wrote: ↑Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:11 pm
I don't think I've ever seen someone detail a list of offenses like that in the first person. I guess maybe in cases like this the perpetrator is generally denying things or refusing responsibility?
initially i thought so too but i think you should read the statements by the band and his collaborator sanford parker to get a better understand of the tactics at play.
Hunter wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 6:17 am
Neurosis lost me...
you were his muse.
when you lost interest, he lost the spark. you're a home wrecker, hunter.
his family got the terminal punishment that they deserved.
I will forever feel guilty for this... and only this. It's the one thing I have done that has ever bothered me. I'm completely fine otherwise. Everything else is always really cool, so I'm sure you can only imagine how this tears me apart.
featherboa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:23 pm
I dunno. I hope his wife is OK.
The fact that Scott felt he had to make a (pretty fucking detailed!) statement NOW is concerning - especially with the recent revelations that Neurosis was essentially over with three years ago. I hope the family is ok - but I don't know how a family recovers from this kind of thing. I hope they can.
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:53 am
by AskForRaffo
Last good Neurosis record was released over 25 years ago, who the fuck cares anymore?
Is there some kind of statute of limitations that applies for this stuff?
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:06 am
by FVBTVS
featherboa wrote: ↑Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:23 pm
I dunno. I hope his wife is OK.
i do hope this goes almost without saying
AskForRaffo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:53 am
Last good Neurosis record was released over 25 years ago, who the fuck cares anymore?
Is there some kind of statute of limitations that applies for this stuff?
haha give me a break man. just because they have been way way past their prime for 20 years doesnt mean they dont still mean a lot to people
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 3:39 pm
by Necrometer
this IS my support PM
pretty sure you guys all know (or could deduce) that this band/guy doesn't mean anything to me
that said, the timing of this story is wild from my POV. my super close friend and I were in vegas for that fest a couple weekends ago, and apparently his friend knows one of the neurosis dudes. the two of them (neurosis guy and friend-of-my-friend) had just driven up to medford (aka methford) to try and track down SK, because he had been essentially disappeared since pre-pandemic. this seemed impossible, but the internet confirmed it - not through any stories or anything, just total silence from the guy's social media. huh. reportedly they were driving around hunting for him with no luck - eventually found his babymama and she told them to fuck off. apparently he drives a red chevy blazer, so at one point they were just hitting up every trailer park they could find in hopes of spotting his vehicle. they never found him, of course... I guess now it feels like this could have been some sort of catalyst for the subsequent confession or whatever?
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:01 pm
by FVBTVS
dang sounds like it
well anyways i tried
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:16 pm
by featherboa
AskForRaffo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:53 am
Last good Neurosis record was released over 25 years ago, who the fuck cares anymore?
they were really good live the last few years
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:19 pm
by featherboa
i feel like the amebix thing was worse
in a certain way
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:42 pm
by Geeheeb
featherboa wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:19 pm
i feel like the amebix thing was worse
in a certain way
yes
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:48 pm
by Eight Bit Alien
What did amebix do?
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:54 pm
by Eight Bit Alien
Did they pay for their own food or have a mortgage? I don't know what the crimes of doom crust are
Re: does anyone want to say something about Scott Kelly
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:07 pm
by Necrometer
Relapse has issued a comment to us about the matter, and it basically came down to a disagreement because vocalist Rob Miller thanking Gerard Menuhin in the album's liner notes, who Jaffe adds German magazine Ox pointed out is "a far right conspiracy theorist, focused specifically on Holocaust denial."
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