artificial intelligence - two words combined that can't make sense

[FVBTVS]

rancid

I cant even research it without having to spend the extra time scrubbing it from my trail so i don't see more of it. Pure cancer

[THE KILL]

Not to be that one guy... but the fact that AI can easily produce "decent" (not really, but people are totally into this kind of shit) metal says more about metal than about the dystopic state of the world. I realise this is a very subjective statement, but most metal I hear nowadays isn't any less generic than the shit posted above. It reminds me a lot of D&D adventures that are constructed with the help of d20-tables.

[THE KILL]

As for the rest, I'm a huge fan of Dall-E, which allows me to easily produce pictures for the boardgame projects I'm working on; it makes a huge difference if you include images on character or weapon cards, and much of what AI comes up with looks pretty fucking decent. With some effort, you can even get it to produce acceptable tiles for dungeon crawls and such. (Obviously if I ever publish one of my mediocre boardgames I'll pay real artists to produce artwork for it. It's scummy if ya don't)






Also, I know graphic design isn't exactly my forte...

[godofdeadlydeath]

Not to be that one guy... but the fact that AI can easily produce "decent" (not really, but people are totally into this kind of shit) metal says more about metal than about the dystopic state of the world. I realise this is a very subjective statement, but most metal I hear nowadays isn't any less generic than the shit posted above. It reminds me a lot of D&D adventures that are constructed with the help of d20-tables.

You're definitely not wrong. So much metal production over the last 10 years or so has sounded nearly identical in terms of drum sounds, etc. and it's because that's the "industry standard" and nobody makes shit that sounds real, raw, or fucked-up anymore. Even in the early 2000s you'd have a band riding high off a wave of a big debut and then they'd release a follow-up album with a bigger budget with inexplicably shittier production, and it was always a crap shoot of what would sound clean or not. Nowadays, all metal sounds clean because it's so easy and cheap with digital plugins. And I hate it.

Even when I do my own Unharrowed stuff, I try to leave in some mistakes or try to make it sound as human as possible, even though I am using artificial drums on the recordings. Plenty of bands I liked in the 90s used artificial or programmed drums and still made them sound good - NIN, Type O Negative, etc. - and nowadays most of the "real" drums I hear on metal albums are triggered or sampled to death and quantized and they just sound too perfect and too samey. It sucks.

So it makes perfect sense that AI can replicate this programmed, computerized bullshit that "real bands" are already making.

[Necrometer]

I cant even research it without having to spend the extra time scrubbing it from my trail so i don't see more of it.

gotta say I'm grateful that windows has that forced install of the xEDGEx browser. when I pull it off the bench and slam it into private mode, it feels kinda meaningful/legit/effective.

[Eight Bit Alien]

xEDGEx is fucking hilarious

[THE KILL]

Not to be that one guy... but the fact that AI can easily produce "decent" (not really, but people are totally into this kind of shit) metal says more about metal than about the dystopic state of the world. I realise this is a very subjective statement, but most metal I hear nowadays isn't any less generic than the shit posted above. It reminds me a lot of D&D adventures that are constructed with the help of d20-tables.

You're definitely not wrong. So much metal production over the last 10 years or so has sounded nearly identical in terms of drum sounds, etc. and it's because that's the "industry standard" and nobody makes shit that sounds real, raw, or fucked-up anymore. Even in the early 2000s you'd have a band riding high off a wave of a big debut and then they'd release a follow-up album with a bigger budget with inexplicably shittier production, and it was always a crap shoot of what would sound clean or not. Nowadays, all metal sounds clean because it's so easy and cheap with digital plugins. And I hate it.

Even when I do my own Unharrowed stuff, I try to leave in some mistakes or try to make it sound as human as possible, even though I am using artificial drums on the recordings. Plenty of bands I liked in the 90s used artificial or programmed drums and still made them sound good - NIN, Type O Negative, etc. - and nowadays most of the "real" drums I hear on metal albums are triggered or sampled to death and quantized and they just sound too perfect and too samey. It sucks.

So it makes perfect sense that AI can replicate this programmed, computerized bullshit that "real bands" are already making.

I couldn't agree with you more, I've said a couple of times before how fucking annoying metal tones have become in the last two decades. Drums in particular nowadays don't sound anything like real drums any more. I'll take the flimsy Justice for All 80s punk snare sound or the steely St Anger snare sound any day over the sterile drum computer sounding bullshit that's used nowadays. I just don't get how people like listening to this samey goop; it doesn't even sound like it's played by people, there's no energy in it.

[godofdeadlydeath]

Not to be that one guy... but the fact that AI can easily produce "decent" (not really, but people are totally into this kind of shit) metal says more about metal than about the dystopic state of the world. I realise this is a very subjective statement, but most metal I hear nowadays isn't any less generic than the shit posted above. It reminds me a lot of D&D adventures that are constructed with the help of d20-tables.

You're definitely not wrong. So much metal production over the last 10 years or so has sounded nearly identical in terms of drum sounds, etc. and it's because that's the "industry standard" and nobody makes shit that sounds real, raw, or fucked-up anymore. Even in the early 2000s you'd have a band riding high off a wave of a big debut and then they'd release a follow-up album with a bigger budget with inexplicably shittier production, and it was always a crap shoot of what would sound clean or not. Nowadays, all metal sounds clean because it's so easy and cheap with digital plugins. And I hate it.

Even when I do my own Unharrowed stuff, I try to leave in some mistakes or try to make it sound as human as possible, even though I am using artificial drums on the recordings. Plenty of bands I liked in the 90s used artificial or programmed drums and still made them sound good - NIN, Type O Negative, etc. - and nowadays most of the "real" drums I hear on metal albums are triggered or sampled to death and quantized and they just sound too perfect and too samey. It sucks.

So it makes perfect sense that AI can replicate this programmed, computerized bullshit that "real bands" are already making.

I couldn't agree with you more, I've said a couple of times before how fucking annoying metal tones have become in the last two decades. Drums in particular nowadays don't sound anything like real drums any more. I'll take the flimsy Justice for All 80s punk snare sound or the steely St Anger snare sound any day over the sterile drum computer sounding bullshit that's used nowadays. I just don't get how people like listening to this samey goop; it doesn't even sound like it's played by people, there's no energy in it.

I think this is why I've finally come around on Opeth's Heritage record which I really did not click with for a long time. Now when I listen to it, I'm amazed at how REAL and LIVE it sounds, compared to most rock and metal these days. Their new album also sounds heavy as hell without sounding "modern" and thank fuck for that.

[THE KILL]

I think this is why I've finally come around on Opeth's Heritage record which I really did not click with for a long time. Now when I listen to it, I'm amazed at how REAL and LIVE it sounds, compared to most rock and metal these days. Their new album also sounds heavy as hell without sounding "modern" and thank fuck for that.

I've heard maybe one or two Opeth songs in my entire life, I need to check them out. Thanks for the recommendation

[godofdeadlydeath]

I think this is why I've finally come around on Opeth's Heritage record which I really did not click with for a long time. Now when I listen to it, I'm amazed at how REAL and LIVE it sounds, compared to most rock and metal these days. Their new album also sounds heavy as hell without sounding "modern" and thank fuck for that.

I've heard maybe one or two Opeth songs in my entire life, I need to check them out. Thanks for the recommendation

Full disclosure: Heritage is basically a 70s prog record. That was when they moved away from metal completely, before slowly incorporating it back more in the subsequent last 4 albums.

Their new release, The Last Will & Testament, is their first album with death metal vocals back in the mix since 2007, and I really love it.

If you want recommendations from their peak era, then most consider Still Life and Blackwater Park the masterpieces, but really every album they released through 2007's Watershed was amazing, in my opinion.

[THE KILL]

I think this is why I've finally come around on Opeth's Heritage record which I really did not click with for a long time. Now when I listen to it, I'm amazed at how REAL and LIVE it sounds, compared to most rock and metal these days. Their new album also sounds heavy as hell without sounding "modern" and thank fuck for that.

I've heard maybe one or two Opeth songs in my entire life, I need to check them out. Thanks for the recommendation

Full disclosure: Heritage is basically a 70s prog record. That was when they moved away from metal completely, before slowly incorporating it back more in the subsequent last 4 albums.

Their new release, The Last Will & Testament, is their first album with death metal vocals back in the mix since 2007, and I really love it.

If you want recommendations from their peak era, then most consider Still Life and Blackwater Park the masterpieces, but really every album they released through 2007's Watershed was amazing, in my opinion.

Honestly nowaday's I prefer prog to metal anyway, so I'll start with Heritage, cheers man!

[featherboa]

opeth groomer straight to the gulag

[Necrometer]

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/sf- ... 969672.php





wondering if this dYsToPiAn ad campaign was put together by a human or an AI

[godofdeadlydeath]

fuck it all (and fucking no regrets I hit the lights on these dark sets medallion noose I'll hang myself St. Anger 'round my neck I feel my world shake like an earthquake hard to see clear is it me is it fear I'm madly in anger with you I'm madly in anger with you I'm madly in anger with you I'm madly in anger with you)

[Geeheeb]

NO

[cxwx]

Kill the jobs. No one has money to buy any of the shit for sale. UBI implemented which causes inflation to rise and the remaining jobs are practically worthless because pay is so low. Everyone eventually turns into a UBI Wall-E drone who are skinny instead of fat on the barely subsistence stipend. The neoliberal dream is complete for a few years until skynet births the cybergod.

[Eight Bit Alien]

Whilst in the real world you

[Toilet Fleet]

I'm a pessimist on the pessimism

Robots and AI have cost-to-scale problems well before they obviate humans in any measurable capacity

Consider a robot fast food cook. Every part on the burger maker robot is a failure point, times the rate of use, times the rate of failure, equals the rate of repair. Scale it over every single facility with burger maker robots, then you've flipped the market power of repair workers: if robot no go if fixer no fix, price goes up! Price goes up, marginal value over human labor goes down, and we're back at employing teenagers, felons, and the undocumented

Eventually, fast food joint touch-to-order screens will get ransomwared en masse; do you think Burger King wants to bear the cost of either in-housing cybersecurity pros or outsourcing it to firms charging ever-higher prices to keep up with the operating risk? Paying a Haitian refugee minimum wage is a much better deal

(I chose fast food examples because 1.) America and 2.) easiest economics to understand: selling a labor-intensive product as cheaply as possible to preserve margin and pass it up the franchise structure. Same economic principles apply to any labor-intensive industry.)

As far as admin/knowledge jobs, 1.) garbage in/garbage out, 2.) information convergence eliminating differentiating factors, 3.) massive cost-to-scale issues, 4.) lol shit is so bad to look at, read, or whatever

[godofdeadlydeath]

Whilst in the real world you

keep on rotting

[cxwx]

Get off my dick
It's sick
I refuse to be inside of you.

Drunk with power
Go take a shower
I wish you would
I wish you could

Aaaaa surreal viiiiiii siiiioooon
Ooooooof a human beeeee-iiiign

[THE KILL]

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[Necrometer]

toilet fleet: I think AI can/will accelerate the hollowing out that's been underway for a while now. there are going to be countless grunt jobs, and a decent number of fancy jobs, but even fewer decent jobs in between

it's more of the classic marx shit: everything will get more efficient, but the typical person won't benefit

I hope you're OK with me countering your nuanced post ... with a post that's totally vague

[FVBTVS]

Evil

[Geeheeb]

Co-pilot is going to dethrone me from being king of VLOOKUP amongst an ocean of nurses who can't even use SUM.

That being said I am staring to use it to assist with reporting and data analysis at least weekly, and I do really like that it can pick out action items in automated meeting minute transcriptions.

[Necrometer]

yeah I'm fine with it helping with menial tasks and obliterating the jobs that were just menial tasks... I think?



some real insanity in this AI remaster if you pause at the right time