Expensive-looking 50 Shades of Grey thread of mommy-porn

[Kurt Russell's Beard]

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/06/tak ... -vacation/

Sweeping the nation. End times.

"...complete with bottles of pinot gris, rides in Audis (the car of choice for Christian Grey, the novel’s titular billionaire sex machine), and helicopter tours of Portland and Seattle. "

Didn't fancy hotels offer this stuff anyway?

Yes.

I have to thank Christian Grey for showing me what women really want. A hot, mega-rich dude. Women are just as shallow as men, yay!

[featherboa]

I'm like 3 pages late, but

http://www.theshallowsbook.com/nicholas ... llows.html

Is Google making us stupid? When Nicholas Carr posed that question in a celebrated Atlantic essay, he tapped into a well of anxiety about how the Internet is changing us. He also crystallized one of the most important debates of our time: As we enjoy the Net’s bounties, are we sacrificing our ability to read and think deeply?

[Necrometer]

TLDR

I think the more important question is why THIS book is being treated as something sexually liberating for women when it simply reheats age-old, misogynistic gendered stereotypes, sprinkles some S & M on top, and gives itself a veneer of authenticity by virtue of coming from a female writer. I mean this in every way subscribes to traditional, and yes sexist, notions of romance in which the female is submissive from the start - and likes it that way. I mean for f**k's sake, does she really have to be a virgin? REALLY? Talk about cliche and abborhent. As someone who practices S & M as a submissive, I can guarantee that a BDSM sexual experience does not BEGIN on such unequal footing. In fact, its very serious that ground rules are agreed upon prior to the encounter, and its important the the dominant person is acting with care and attention to the sub's pleasure. In this novel, its just wholesale domination, in every aspect of her life, without regard to her pleasure, and it seems that its more the sexualization of gendered inequality that happens all over our society, than an exploration of the psycho-sexual aspects of bdsm. Call me close-minded but I'm seriously annoyed that the first mainstream-embraced novel about bdsm features a *virginal*, naive, dumb college student and an immensely powerful and rich executive who *manipulates* her into submission - in every aspect of her life.

I really hope she threw a British spelling after "disorientated"

she is from the uk

Yeah but she immediately points that out like she's one-upping you, "I know I'm going to get called on this being wrong, but I'm actually right ! Surprise !" It's that she assumes her audience won't know there's differences in British English but assumes they'll know those words are "wrong" that's presumptuous and funny. Like, is her inbox just getting flooded with emails pointing out that she spelled instalment wrong ?!

hahahaha... even mid-level tards (who don't know there's more than one English) are mad enough at her horrible writing to hit her with hate mail

[Necrometer]

Some scientist I'm helping today said "it is what it is", meaning "I'll take what I can get". For the record.

[THE KILL]

I don't get the selective outrage over what this board makes fun of? Shitty music? Go ahead-- 20 plus page thread! Shitty people? For sure-- A MAN AND A WOMAN MEET!! Shitty books? Stop being butthurt intellectuals.

Nah man I just don't care enough about you guys' music tastes or your penchant for ridiculing people you don't like to read those shitty threads. I'm a lazy poster anyway.

By the same token... I want a writer to be able to at least write a LITTLE bit. My example above was that Grisham was seen as the anti-christ by some nose-in-the-air literary types (not me) but at least he could put a sentence together. Is it wrong to hold even these basest of standards? That our singers be able to sing without computer help and that our writers not use "murmured" 120-some odd times in a 200 pages book?

I agree with you, but shitty books/ films/ music being incredibly successful isn't a new phenomenon. The Harry Potter books are almost as shitty as this 50 shades of grey nonsense but they sold like hot cakes anyway. You could argue that they were kids'/ young adults' books but there are so many grown-ups and people who should know better (literature students for example) who read that shit that it's not funny anymore.

Music nowadays is really shit, though. I blame ze blacks...

There are very real numbers to back up the decline of literature.... The number of books sold, period, anywhere, has been in serious decline.

Not sure what my stance is on this.... on the one hand I feel it's just one more medium being replaced by another/ other one(s), but yeah, somehow I still think reading is more valuable than watching a film. Which is surely nonsense? I don't know. I certainly wish my pupils would read more, but still...

[THE KILL]

I really hope she threw a British spelling after "disorientated"

she is from the uk

Yeah but she immediately points that out like she's one-upping you, "I know I'm going to get called on this being wrong, but I'm actually right ! Surprise !" It's that she assumes her audience won't know there's differences in British English but assumes they'll know those words are "wrong" that's presumptuous and funny. Like, is her inbox just getting flooded with emails pointing out that she spelled instalment wrong ?!

Haha typical north-american inferiority complex

[THE KILL]

I think the more important question is why THIS book is being treated as something sexually liberating for women when it simply reheats age-old, misogynistic gendered stereotypes, sprinkles some S & M on top, and gives itself a veneer of authenticity by virtue of coming from a female writer. I mean this in every way subscribes to traditional, and yes sexist, notions of romance in which the female is submissive from the start - and likes it that way. I mean for f**k's sake, does she really have to be a virgin? REALLY? Talk about cliche and abborhent. As someone who practices S & M as a submissive, I can guarantee that a BDSM sexual experience does not BEGIN on such unequal footing. In fact, its very serious that ground rules are agreed upon prior to the encounter, and its important the the dominant person is acting with care and attention to the sub's pleasure. In this novel, its just wholesale domination, in every aspect of her life, without regard to her pleasure, and it seems that its more the sexualization of gendered inequality that happens all over our society, than an exploration of the psycho-sexual aspects of bdsm. Call me close-minded but I'm seriously annoyed that the first mainstream-embraced novel about bdsm features a *virginal*, naive, dumb college student and an immensely powerful and rich executive who *manipulates* her into submission - in every aspect of her life.

Yeah, that's just about it, you're close-minded. It's a sexual fantasy, and those do not have to conform to anyone's political/ sexual ideology. One of the most popular sexual fantasy among women is being raped (apparently, it's one of the stables of romance novels/ women porn), but it doesn't say anything about their stance towards human rights etc. Women and men get off on non-PC sex/ sexual fantasies and there's nothing you can do about it, so lighten the fuck up you bourgeois fuck. Jeez...

[THE KILL]

LOL WAT

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/f ... lis-335866

Bret Easton Ellis Wants to Adapt 'Fifty Shades of Grey,' Has Director and Cast in Mind
12:45 PM PDT 6/11/2012 by Philiana Ng
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Bret Easton Ellis
"Completely committed to adapting Fifty Shades of Grey. This is not a joke," he wrote on Twitter; David Cronenberg was bandied about as Ellis' ideal pick for director.

Fifty Shades of Grey has Hollywood blushing and author/screenwriter Bret Easton Ellis is putting himself up for consideration to adapt the best-selling E.L. James novel.
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Ellis took to Twitter to announce his intention to transition Grey from book to big screen: "I'm putting myself out there to write the movie adaptation of 'Fifty Shades of Grey' ...," he wrote Saturday morning. If Ellis' nearly 292,000 followers thought he was kidding, he made 100 percent clear of his desires.
"Completely committed to adapting Fifty Shades of Grey. This is not a joke. Christian Grey and Ana: potentially great cinematic characters," Ellis wrote that evening after sharing that he had contacted his agent about putting himself up for the job.
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After calling protagonist Christian Grey, an enigmatic wealthy businessman, "a writer's dream," Ellis continued on his efforts to meet with the studio. On Sunday, he wrote that his team had been informed: "Okay. Today the team has been briefed and we will be approaching the studio this week about BEE adapting 'Fifty Shades of Grey' into a film."
He even went so far to say filmmaker David Cronenberg, who directed A Dangerous Method and Cosmopolis and who he had worked with briefly for American Psycho, would be his ideal pick to step behind the camera. This comes days after news surfaced that Angelina Jolie was once linked to direct.
"I think David Cronenberg is a great idea for directing Fifty Shades of Grey and we worked together on American Psycho in its initial phase," Ellis wrote.
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Though several tweets that seem to have been deleted, Ellis also teased his picks for Christian and college student Anastasia who gets wrapped up in a complicated sexual relationship with him.
"The casting of Christian in 'Fifty Shades of Grey' wouldn't be up to me but I have certain actors in mind. And a particular actress for Ana," he wrote.
Ellis wrote, according to Digital Spy: "Cronenberg and Alexander Skarsgård is a no-brainer. I've seen Alexander naked so many times at the gym that we both attend: perfect casting."
"Thinking more conventionally for Ana in Fifty Shades of Grey: Scarlett Johansson or Kristen Stewart. Alex Pettyfer as Christian: too young?," he said. Aaron Johnson and Ryan Gosling ("In a perfect world") were also put into the fray.

[THE KILL]

[The Harry Potter books are almost as shitty as this 50 shades of grey nonsense

Not even in the same ballpark. Harry Potter isn't Faulkner, but it's at least competent. 50 Shades of Grey isn't just subjectively bad, as in "Oh I don't like the writing style", it's to the point where a college 101 class wouldn't accept it.

Hey man, if the quality of a book is below a certain threshold I don't bother pondering whether it's more or less shitty than another shitty book. It's just shit and I will role my eyes at you in a very aggressive fashion if you admitted to liking it.

SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW

So you enjoyed Harry Potter, huh? Pffff...

[THE KILL]

I think the more important question is why THIS book is being treated as something sexually liberating for women when it simply reheats age-old, misogynistic gendered stereotypes, sprinkles some S & M on top, and gives itself a veneer of authenticity by virtue of coming from a female writer. I mean this in every way subscribes to traditional, and yes sexist, notions of romance in which the female is submissive from the start - and likes it that way. I mean for f**k's sake, does she really have to be a virgin? REALLY? Talk about cliche and abborhent. As someone who practices S & M as a submissive, I can guarantee that a BDSM sexual experience does not BEGIN on such unequal footing. In fact, its very serious that ground rules are agreed upon prior to the encounter, and its important the the dominant person is acting with care and attention to the sub's pleasure. In this novel, its just wholesale domination, in every aspect of her life, without regard to her pleasure, and it seems that its more the sexualization of gendered inequality that happens all over our society, than an exploration of the psycho-sexual aspects of bdsm. Call me close-minded but I'm seriously annoyed that the first mainstream-embraced novel about bdsm features a *virginal*, naive, dumb college student and an immensely powerful and rich executive who *manipulates* her into submission - in every aspect of her life.

Yeah, that's just about it, you're close-minded. It's a sexual fantasy, and those do not have to conform to anyone's political/ sexual ideology. One of the most popular sexual fantasy among women is being raped (apparently, it's one of the stables of romance novels/ women porn), but it doesn't say anything about their stance towards human rights etc. Women and men get off on non-PC sex/ sexual fantasies and there's nothing you can do about it, so lighten the fuck up you bourgeois fuck. Jeez...

Be sure to check your fantasies in with the Political Police before you rehearse them in your mind.

Exactly.

[Necrometer]

Cronenberg would CRUSH this shit - I sincerely hope that happens


and casting Kristen Stewart would probably implode my brain

[Necrometer]

SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW

I think the more important question is why THIS book is being treated as something sexually liberating for women when it simply reheats age-old, misogynistic gendered stereotypes, sprinkles some S & M on top, and gives itself a veneer of authenticity by virtue of coming from a female writer. I mean this in every way subscribes to traditional, and yes sexist, notions of romance in which the female is submissive from the start - and likes it that way. I mean for f**k's sake, does she really have to be a virgin? REALLY? Talk about cliche and abborhent. As someone who practices S & M as a submissive, I can guarantee that a BDSM sexual experience does not BEGIN on such unequal footing. In fact, its very serious that ground rules are agreed upon prior to the encounter, and its important the the dominant person is acting with care and attention to the sub's pleasure. In this novel, its just wholesale domination, in every aspect of her life, without regard to her pleasure, and it seems that its more the sexualization of gendered inequality that happens all over our society, than an exploration of the psycho-sexual aspects of bdsm. Call me close-minded but I'm seriously annoyed that the first mainstream-embraced novel about bdsm features a *virginal*, naive, dumb college student and an immensely powerful and rich executive who *manipulates* her into submission - in every aspect of her life.

Yeah, that's just about it, you're close-minded. It's a sexual fantasy, and those do not have to conform to anyone's political/ sexual ideology. One of the most popular sexual fantasy among women is being raped (apparently, it's one of the stables of romance novels/ women porn), but it doesn't say anything about their stance towards human rights etc. Women and men get off on non-PC sex/ sexual fantasies and there's nothing you can do about it, so lighten the fuck up you bourgeois fuck. Jeez...

I think her frustration is justified - if she's into kinky shit and that's important to her, then this book goes viral and runs the absolute worst PR campaign of misinformation against BDSM... she has every right to her feelings and response

but no one is "to blame" because E L James was initially just fucking off posting Twilight fan-fic, never realizing that she was actually going to be telling so many people that it's perfectly natural for a sub to be actually weeping during her first flogging

I already addressed this with the rape-fantasy-fulfillment angle so I don't disagree with your response either

[THE KILL]

SPOILERSPOILER_SHOW

I think the more important question is why THIS book is being treated as something sexually liberating for women when it simply reheats age-old, misogynistic gendered stereotypes, sprinkles some S & M on top, and gives itself a veneer of authenticity by virtue of coming from a female writer. I mean this in every way subscribes to traditional, and yes sexist, notions of romance in which the female is submissive from the start - and likes it that way. I mean for f**k's sake, does she really have to be a virgin? REALLY? Talk about cliche and abborhent. As someone who practices S & M as a submissive, I can guarantee that a BDSM sexual experience does not BEGIN on such unequal footing. In fact, its very serious that ground rules are agreed upon prior to the encounter, and its important the the dominant person is acting with care and attention to the sub's pleasure. In this novel, its just wholesale domination, in every aspect of her life, without regard to her pleasure, and it seems that its more the sexualization of gendered inequality that happens all over our society, than an exploration of the psycho-sexual aspects of bdsm. Call me close-minded but I'm seriously annoyed that the first mainstream-embraced novel about bdsm features a *virginal*, naive, dumb college student and an immensely powerful and rich executive who *manipulates* her into submission - in every aspect of her life.

Yeah, that's just about it, you're close-minded. It's a sexual fantasy, and those do not have to conform to anyone's political/ sexual ideology. One of the most popular sexual fantasy among women is being raped (apparently, it's one of the stables of romance novels/ women porn), but it doesn't say anything about their stance towards human rights etc. Women and men get off on non-PC sex/ sexual fantasies and there's nothing you can do about it, so lighten the fuck up you bourgeois fuck. Jeez...

I think her frustration is justified - if she's into kinky shit and that's important to her, then this book goes viral and runs the absolute worst PR campaign of misinformation against BDSM... she has every right to her feelings and response

but no one is "to blame" because E L James was initially just fucking off posting Twilight fan-fic, never realizing that she was actually going to be telling so many people that it's perfectly natural for a sub to be actually weeping during her first flogging

I already addressed this with the rape-fantasy-fulfillment angle so I don't disagree with your response either

I can understand why she gets angry at the book (though IMHO it's more because, in her own way, she's a PC fuck, rather than because she's angry about her precious BDSM practices getting bad publicity) but still, it's made for so if people base their opinion on BDSM on it, it's not the book's fault. I admit this might sound naive, but I'm still convinced that people should inform themselves if they're interested in a topic. In a similar way, blaming porn produced for (adult) males for teenaged dudes demanding anal sex from their first date is bullshit; you might rather ask why parents hadn't talked to their kids about what sex is/ should really be like.

[Kurt Russell's Beard]

one of my classmates posted on Facebook about how much she's enjoying the series, and how "they're well written and addicting"...she's one of the smarter people in my class, I'm a bit disappointed in her

What class?

Basket weaving?

[a world of no]

she's one of my vet tech classmates....not like she's an English major, but still...

i work with a girl that's taking the mcat to go premed. after texting her a bunch of bullshit about shaming the shit out of her for being such a milquetoast, doomed to live a purgatoric life of simpering simplicity she replied with: "Stop using big words. I went to school for science not English. Thank you."

[james]

Yeah, that's just about it, you're close-minded. It's a sexual fantasy, and those do not have to conform to anyone's political/ sexual ideology. One of the most popular sexual fantasy among women is being raped (apparently, it's one of the stables of romance novels/ women porn), but it doesn't say anything about their stance towards human rights etc. Women and men get off on non-PC sex/ sexual fantasies and there's nothing you can do about it, so lighten the fuck up you bourgeois fuck. Jeez...

[Necrometer]

i work with a girl that's taking the mcat to go premed. after texting her a bunch of bullshit about shaming the shit out of her for being such a milquetoast, doomed to live a purgatoric life of simpering simplicity she replied with: "Stop using big words. I went to school for science not English. Thank you."

goddamnit

[fallbacktostone]

i havent been keeping up with what this thread has been doing admittedly but i saw this today and trolled a bookseller and asked if they had it on cd or something and he didn't laugh or smile

[fallbacktostone]

i pointed it out to the booksellers and the folks i was with and no one even acknowledged me

[Necrometer]

i pointed it out to the booksellers and the folks i was with and no one even acknowledged me

hahahaha I want spycam footage of all these instances of your IRL failing to be up to snuff

"you guys seriously want to see moonrise kingdom? all of you? oh-kay..."

[fallbacktostone]

[fallbacktostone]

i just want credit for being a good guy sometimes. i saw prometheus in 3d 'being a good guy' which meant i had to see it again in 2d out of principle.

it's either that or being a dick all the time.

[Necrometer]

man it's 100% - I'm a pretty considerate dude (or pushover, depending on my cock's involvement) IRL

[james]

thats fucking Mulder

[Fighting Uruk-Hai]