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riley-o wrote:

Green Chamber wrote:A genuinely obsessive desire to transform ones self probably doesn't stem from a really secure and confident spot inside.

who cares ? wanting to constantly improve, a genuine desire to strive for something more, even if its root is mental torment or a history of insecurity, is (imho naturally) one of the most important characteristics a person can have.

We could debate the merit of either perspective, but the question was about chicks.

Hypnagogia wrote:I think you missed his point; he was saying why body build? why not challenge yourself & feel endorphins in other ways, such as eating the most pizzas, etc.
...and part of the answer to that question is that it's about more than just challenging yourself, or how you make yourself feel, as you claimed; it's also about how you make yourself appear to others.

He did not miss the point.

Kurt Russell's Beard wrote:

Tony Twist wrote:Maybe it's the male equivlant of the ultra hot chick who's always single cause men are either intimidated by them or they think they're already taken? Then again, maybe most chicks know a lot of these guys are just douchebags.

I think this is a myth. Really, I had no idea how many times a day a beautiful woman is hit on or asked out, it shocked me, they become talented at blocking it out. For every ten shy guys who'd be intimidated to ask them out, there is one bold guy working serious fucking overtime.

Matt is right.

Mari_Mar wrote: Hey! WTF!? I never said you were/n't attractive. I've always been to respectful of you to do that!

You said something about being intimidated by muscles. Oh well, either way.

The Torsion wrote:

Mari_Mar wrote: Hey! WTF!? I never said you were/n't attractive. I've always been to respectful of you to do that!

You said something about being intimidated by muscles. Oh well, either way.

And you said you weren't a hater. Ha!

Mari_Mar wrote:

Kurt Russell's Beard wrote:

Tony Twist wrote:Maybe it's the male equivlant of the ultra hot chick who's always single cause men are either intimidated by them or they think they're already taken? Then again, maybe most chicks know a lot of these guys are just douchebags.

I think this is a myth. Really, I had no idea how many times a day a beautiful woman is hit on or asked out, it shocked me, they become talented at blocking it out. For every ten shy guys who'd be intimidated to ask them out, there is one bold guy working serious fucking overtime.

Matt is right.

Well, it does make sense. I bet that one guy is a douche though.

Necrometer wrote:

riley-o wrote:

Necrometer wrote:

riley-o wrote:you either do it because some part of you enjoys the challenge and experience and endorphins or you don't do it.

All of this is fine, but why not eat shitloads more pizza/icecream than you do. Being chubby is not going to cancel out ANY of those positives you listed.

well for me personally, as this question seems to be directed directly at me, shit i don't know if you've ever tried to function at a high level of athletics (which doesn't mean lifting weights for an hour after work on MWF, i mean dedication to five or six days a week twice a day workouts) when your diet consists of pizza and iced cream and various junk as the staples of your diet but let me let you in on a little tip: your body doesn't work that way. now if we're talking about strictly body building that's another matter but even then you're going to have much better, longer, more effective workouts if you put good fuel in your body.

honestly this question is so stupid that even though i'm giving you a real response i want you to know that i'm assuming you're trolling here.

Look man I already understood pretty much everything you do and your motivations for them before I made this thread. My comment is applied to a non-fighting, pure lifting scenario which you reminisced back to. And in that case yeah you can push your limits of strength and get the endorphins even if you had +5% bodyfat over whatever you maintained. Your decision to get all confrontational and condescending before admitting that you care about how you look is pretty disappointing. I wasn't suggesting you eat LESS good nutrients, I was suggesting you could eat more fun empty calories and all the posi-shit you listed would still apply.

right but your question was "why not eat shitloads more pizza/icecream than you do" which doesn't apply to everyone, it applies to me. the question as it applies to me is infinitely retarded, particularly because as you said you know why i don't.

further, you said "shitloads" more junk which i am taking literally and wouldn't result in a +5% increase in body fat, it would be a lot more and would have a definite impact on the functionality of your weight training.

i will admit that seeing a definite response from your body as it improves in strength is a motivating factor but that's just seeing the results of hard work. what i was being condescending and confrontational about was the attitude that diet's only effect is to put on some fat when in reality, and as i fucking know you know, it has a massive impact on functionality. so if you claim something you know to be untrue to further your point i will continue to be both condescending and confrontational. what.

HeyWard wrote:

The Torsion wrote:

Mari_Mar wrote: Hey! WTF!? I never said you were/n't attractive. I've always been to respectful of you to do that!

You said something about being intimidated by muscles. Oh well, either way.

And you said you weren't a hater. Ha!

I'm a total hater, never denied it.

OK riley, shitloads = nature's WAY MORE

granted, but no pressure to eat it =&&=

my muscley friends are single too. I thought about making a post about myself in here, but I have nothing to do with this thread.

HeyWard wrote:

The Torsion wrote:It's feast or famine with females. Most women are a spectacular waste of time. Most men probably are, too. I get so fucking disgusted at how people think you should just be 'content' with who you are. Fuck that. Be intense about something. So many low-impact sadsacks resting on their laurels and living vicariously through televised sports. Always strive for something better, never be satisfied. Losers are satisfied. Like I give a shit if fucking Mari Mar or Hamelia don't find me attractive. The feeling is mutual. I'm not a goddamn bodybuilder anyway. I lift weights an engage in intensive strength training because it's exciting and it fuels my fucking ego when I top what I could do before.

hmmm...needs more breakdowns.

...and a few slam riffs

"it fuels my fucking ego" would be a great song title.

Whatever, 1 hardcore kid in 300 can hold 40 pounds over his head.

neckbeard wrote:my muscley friends are single too. I thought about making a post about myself in here, but I have nothing to do with this thread.

You have everything to do with this thread: max unmuscle, max unsingle!

When Dorian Yates won the Olympia for the first time I think he allowed himself 1/4th a glass of wine and one day off.

Ross, please tell me this thread isn't about trying to find a "weakness" in guys that make you feel inadequate so that you can feel better about yourself.

Bored, Esq. wrote:When Dorian Yates won the Olympia for the first time I think he allowed himself 1/4th a glass of wine and one day off.

Ross, please tell me this thread isn't about trying to find a "weakness" in guys that make you feel inadequate so that you can feel better about yourself.

But, Ross is single too, isn't he?

Mari_Mar wrote:

Bored, Esq. wrote:When Dorian Yates won the Olympia for the first time I think he allowed himself 1/4th a glass of wine and one day off.

Ross, please tell me this thread isn't about trying to find a "weakness" in guys that make you feel inadequate so that you can feel better about yourself.

But, Ross is single too, isn't he?

Not the point at all, Mari. Goddamn.

Bored, Esq. wrote:Not the point at all, Mari. Goddamn.

But, he's muscley too? No?

milkmandan wrote:

HeyWard wrote:

The Torsion wrote:It's feast or famine with females. Most women are a spectacular waste of time. Most men probably are, too. I get so fucking disgusted at how people think you should just be 'content' with who you are. Fuck that. Be intense about something. So many low-impact sadsacks resting on their laurels and living vicariously through televised sports. Always strive for something better, never be satisfied. Losers are satisfied. Like I give a shit if fucking Mari Mar or Hamelia don't find me attractive. The feeling is mutual. I'm not a goddamn bodybuilder anyway. I lift weights an engage in intensive strength training because it's exciting and it fuels my fucking ego when I top what I could do before.

hmmm...needs more breakdowns.

...and a few slam riffs

"it fuels my fucking ego" would be a great song title.

The Torsion - 'Feast or Famine' new album 2010!

Includes FREE SOUTHERN LOUISIANA HARDCORE (SLHC) TEMPORARY NECK TATTOO

Tracklisting:

1. Waste of Time
2. Feast or Famine
3. So Fucking Disgusted
4. Be Intense
5. Low-Impact Sadsack
6. Never Be Satisfied
7. I lift weights
8. Goddamn Bodybuilder
9. It Fuels My Fucking Ego
10. Intensive Strength Training

Bored, Esq. wrote:Ross, please tell me this thread isn't about trying to find a "weakness" in guys that make you feel inadequate so that you can feel better about yourself.

Heavens no! I don't have too many bad/inadequate feelings about my body, and I do admire the guys that bust their asses for whatever goal. I explained what inspired the thread - that's it. I guess it could have been any hobby, like the stuff Hana listed.

This is why I don't say what I'm really thinking that much.

the StadiumBeerFit demo was better

milkmandan wrote:

milkmandan wrote:

HeyWard wrote:

The Torsion wrote:It's feast or famine with females. Most women are a spectacular waste of time. Most men probably are, too. I get so fucking disgusted at how people think you should just be 'content' with who you are. Fuck that. Be intense about something. So many low-impact sadsacks resting on their laurels and living vicariously through televised sports. Always strive for something better, never be satisfied. Losers are satisfied. Like I give a shit if fucking Mari Mar or Hamelia don't find me attractive. The feeling is mutual. I'm not a goddamn bodybuilder anyway. I lift weights an engage in intensive strength training because it's exciting and it fuels my fucking ego when I top what I could do before.

hmmm...needs more breakdowns.

...and a few slam riffs

"it fuels my fucking ego" would be a great song title.

The Torsion - 'Feast or Famine' new album 2010!

Includes FREE SOUTHERN LOUISIANA HARDCORE (SLHC) TEMPORARY NECK TATTOO

Tracklisting:

1. Waste of Time
2. Feast or Famine
3. So Fucking Disgusted
4. Be Intense
5. Low-Impact Sadsack
6. Never Be Satisfied
7. I lift weights
8. Goddamn Bodybuilder
9. It Fuels My Fucking Ego
10. Intensive Strength Training

Ahahahahahaa

Teebore wrote:

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milkmandan wrote:

milkmandan wrote:

HeyWard wrote:

The Torsion wrote:It's feast or famine with females. Most women are a spectacular waste of time. Most men probably are, too. I get so fucking disgusted at how people think you should just be 'content' with who you are. Fuck that. Be intense about something. So many low-impact sadsacks resting on their laurels and living vicariously through televised sports. Always strive for something better, never be satisfied. Losers are satisfied. Like I give a shit if fucking Mari Mar or Hamelia don't find me attractive. The feeling is mutual. I'm not a goddamn bodybuilder anyway. I lift weights an engage in intensive strength training because it's exciting and it fuels my fucking ego when I top what I could do before.

hmmm...needs more breakdowns.

...and a few slam riffs

"it fuels my fucking ego" would be a great song title.

The Torsion - 'Feast or Famine' new album 2010!

Includes FREE SOUTHERN LOUISIANA HARDCORE (SLHC) TEMPORARY NECK TATTOO

Tracklisting:

1. Waste of Time
2. Feast or Famine
3. So Fucking Disgusted
4. Be Intense
5. Low-Impact Sadsack
6. Never Be Satisfied
7. I lift weights
8. Goddamn Bodybuilder
9. It Fuels My Fucking Ego
10. Intensive Strength Training

Ahahahahahaa

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"It's feast or famine with females. Most women are a spectacular waste of time. Most men probably are, too. I get so fucking disgusted at how people think you should just be 'content' with who you are. Fuck that. Be intense about something. So many low-impact sadsacks resting on their laurels and living vicariously through televised sports. Always strive for something better, never be satisfied. Losers are satisfied. Like I give a shit if fucking Mari Mar or Hamelia don't find me attractive. The feeling is mutual. I'm not a goddamn bodybuilder anyway. I lift weights an engage in intensive strength training because it's exciting and it fuels my fucking ego when I top what I could do before."

The Torsion wrote:This is why I don't say what I'm really thinking that much.

i thought it was a great post

"low impact sadsack" really put it over the edge