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Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:21 pm
by Necrometer
bump
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:04 pm
by Scumfucker
http://forums.joerogan.net/showthread.php?t=98501
Joe Rogan:
"I just saw "Avatar"
Fucking incredible. There were a few hacky and cliche moments, but in the big picture that's all forgiven. Easily the best movie I've ever seen.
By an hour and a half into the movie I totally wanted to fuck that blue chick."
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:08 pm
by Scumfucker
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:37 pm
by Friendly Goatus
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:06 am
by Dr Yail Bloor
now 3rd highest grossing of all time, will be second in a few days.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:45 am
by Necrometer
It already is second, BLOOR, get with the times...
http://www.boxofficeguru.com/intl.htm
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:16 am
by Dr Yail Bloor
sorry METER but my internet is 5 hours behind yours, timezones etc
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:23 am
by Kurt Russell's Beard
Scumfucker wrote:
Cameron spent how long again writing his opus, and it's essentially a Pocahontas Mad Lib. Dumb.
This is one of those movies that quickly turn to shit in my mind after viewing. But, still...those 3D dragons, I want to tame one through personal combat and ram my dick into its mane-interface and have adventures in 3D.
At the same time, I am fearful about this 3D explosion. I don't want most movies to be in 3D.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:25 am
by Necrometer
Not to totally trivialize things, but can't the Avatar story archetype (same as Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves, Last Samurai, Dune, etc) be considered a widespread template by now the same way others are?
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:30 am
by Kurt Russell's Beard
Necrometer wrote:Not to totally trivialize things, but can't the Avatar story archetype (same as Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves, Last Samurai, Dune, etc) be considered a widespread template by now the same way others are?
Sure.
I'm just surprised it took him, what, 20 years to write. Also, that some people, including Cameron himself, are touting the thing as so brave, imaginitive, and unique. I have seen 11-year-old neophytes at a gaming table construct better, fueled only by Mountain Dew and social ostracization.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:35 am
by Necrometer
You're right on all counts. Note that he wrote the treatment in 3 weeks in '95, then shelved it until CGI characters came into being (seeing Gollum was his "green light"), then he cut fat from the treatment, threw in some Middle East allegory, and that's pretty much it. He is up front about the story being classic and old-school, and the "revolution" has always been in the visuals. I'll see this movie more times in the theater than any other because that's the only place it's worth a damn.
Despite all the weakness in the story, I still give him credit for 1) not being blatantly offensive in the ways Transformers 2 was, and 2) actually attempting to say something pertinent. High-stakes blockbusters simply do not do that.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:35 am
by The Wages of Ben
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:37 am
by Necrometer
I had formulated a post about that ass being shit and too tall... but then the truth was revealed.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:22 am
by DeadWalrus
Necrometer wrote:Not to totally trivialize things, but can't the Avatar story archetype (same as Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves, Last Samurai, Dune, etc) be considered a widespread template by now the same way others are?
well, i know that i personally cannot wait for each new iteration of Romantic Comedy, Inspirational Sports Story or Buddy Cop Action Comedy so good job cameron, thank you for illuminating the vacuous and brain-dead movie going public with a $400 million klieg light. way to go.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:24 am
by Necrometer
oy vey
people treat Wizard of Oz special but its story is shit
let's get real
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:29 pm
by Deez Nutz
I still have not seen it. I did get pulled into seeing Sherlock Holmes and realized I'm just too hyper-sensitive to all the ass clowns around me to fully enjoy any movie in the theatre. If just one person within earshot is talking, experience ruined. Some fucker kicking the back of my seat? Pissed.
I'd need to go the tenth week at a 10AM Sunday show to really appreciate it.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:32 pm
by Necrometer
People we REALLY quiet in all the showings I've seen... there was some inintentional laughter at one spot but they are usually all
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:18 pm
by Honky Kong 64
Necrometer wrote:Not to totally trivialize things, but can't the Avatar story archetype (same as Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves, Last Samurai, Dune, etc) be considered a widespread template by now the same way others are?
Leave Herbert out of it!
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:28 pm
by DeadWalrus
Honky Kong 64 wrote:Leave Herbert out of it!
yeah, he was a full blown monarchist so you can't really call it white guilt if he actually thinks rich white people are better than the savages
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:33 pm
by Ray
Necrometer wrote:Not to totally trivialize things, but can't the Avatar story archetype (same as Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves, Last Samurai, Dune, etc) be considered a widespread template by now the same way others are?
MAYBE. But when you do it as cheesy and boring as this movie did? Unfuckingforgivable. SFX were fine - I wasn't ensnared by it like everyone else, though; that's just me. I'm glad people just enjoyed the visuals alone and not give a shit about the story, like the people I saw it with. Had I been by myself I would have walked out.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:26 pm
by Necrometer
I can dig it, Ray! I know you don't really hate fun.
Here's the FULL sex scene from the script, hehehe...
He puts his face close to hers. She rubs her cheek against
his. He kisses her on the mouth. They explore each other.
Then she pulls back, eyes sparkling.
NEYTIRI
"Kissing is very good. But we have
something better."
She pulls him down until they are kneeling, facing each other
on the faintly glowing moss.
Neytiri takes the end of her queue and raises it. Jake does
the same, with trembling anticipation. The tendrils at the
ends move with a life of their own, straining to be joined.
MACRO SHOT -- The tendrils INTERTWINE with gentle
undulations.
JAKE rocks with the direct contact between his nervous system
and hers. The ultimate intimacy.
They come together into a kiss and sink down on the bed of
moss, and ripples of light spread out around them.
THE WILLOWS sway, without wind, and the night is alive with
pulsing energy as we DISSOLVE TO --
LATER. She is collapsed across his chest. Spent. He
strokes her face tenderly.
JAKE
"Neytiri, you know my real body is far
away, sleeping."
She raises up, placing her fingertips to his chest --
NEYTIRI
"This body is real."
(she touches his forehead)
"This spirit is real."
script download:
http://www.foxscreenings.com/media/pdf/ ... AVATAR.pdf
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:28 am
by delmuerte
Oh lord. I thought that was some shitty fanfic.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:53 pm
by Obesese Witherspoon
bump so I can read later. Just saw it, loved it.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:43 am
by Scumfucker
I'm guessing when it comes out on blu-ray DVD, first there will be a crappy version with film only and no extras. Then several months later, a deluxe version with extras, interviews, etc. Then several months later one with the deleted sex scene.
Re: James Cameron's AVATAR - you know... for kids!
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:46 am
by DeadWalrus
Scumfucker wrote:I'm guessing when it comes out on blu-ray DVD, first there will be a crappy version with film only and no extras. Then several months later, a deluxe version with extras, interviews, etc. Then several months later one with the deleted sex scene.
they gonna release it in 3d...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/s ... -2010.html
