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Broken Into Pieces wrote:

The Schwartz wrote:you some kind of retard?, boy

come on, the two are practically identical... the only difference, as far as I can see, is that when giving a backdrop driver you tuck your head to one side of your opponent's body... after seeing Eddie Kingston drop Sami Callihan on his own face with a botched German and bust up his own nose so badly that it needed surgery, if anything the backdrop driver looks safer overall

I heard from a Golden Retriever named Cuddles that the PERFECT 'PLEX was just a fisherman's suplex. Also, she told me that the Stone Cold Stunner, RKO, and Diamond Cutter are the same shit. It's all good, if dudes use the same moves, as long as they put some sort of personality on it. Only time I can remember two dudes using the same move at the same time would be Kane/Undertaker - Tombstone Piledriver, and Nash/Sid - Powerbomb. Oh, and almost every young guy at the end of WCW using the Super Kick.

The Bill wrote:

Broken Into Pieces wrote:

The Schwartz wrote:you some kind of retard?, boy

come on, the two are practically identical... the only difference, as far as I can see, is that when giving a backdrop driver you tuck your head to one side of your opponent's body... after seeing Eddie Kingston drop Sami Callihan on his own face with a botched German and bust up his own nose so badly that it needed surgery, if anything the backdrop driver looks safer overall

I heard from a Golden Retriever named Cuddles that the PERFECT 'PLEX was just a fisherman's suplex. Also, she told me that the Stone Cold Stunner, RKO, and Diamond Cutter are the same shit. It's all good, if dudes use the same moves, as long as they put some sort of personality on it. Only time I can remember two dudes using the same move at the same time would be Kane/Undertaker - Tombstone Piledriver, and Nash/Sid - Powerbomb. Oh, and almost every young guy at the end of WCW using the Super Kick.

Swagger/Kurt Angle - Ankle Lock, but Swagger is such a (piss poor) rip off Angle, I think it's more of a mock than anything else. What a lanky, lisp-y fuck Swagger is. I really don't like him. He did have some pretty great matches with Christian, though.

The Bill wrote:

Broken Into Pieces wrote:

The Schwartz wrote:you some kind of retard?, boy

come on, the two are practically identical... the only difference, as far as I can see, is that when giving a backdrop driver you tuck your head to one side of your opponent's body... after seeing Eddie Kingston drop Sami Callihan on his own face with a botched German and bust up his own nose so badly that it needed surgery, if anything the backdrop driver looks safer overall

I heard from a Golden Retriever named Cuddles that the PERFECT 'PLEX was just a fisherman's suplex. Also, she told me that the Stone Cold Stunner, RKO, and Diamond Cutter are the same shit. It's all good, if dudes use the same moves, as long as they put some sort of personality on it. Only time I can remember two dudes using the same move at the same time would be Kane/Undertaker - Tombstone Piledriver, and Nash/Sid - Powerbomb. Oh, and almost every young guy at the end of WCW using the Super Kick.

Yeah, but those are just wrestlers having their own pet names for the move they use as their finisher. "German suplex" and "backdrop driver" are generic names for two very similar moves.

Other different-name-but-it's-the-same-thing examples, off the top of my head:
Cop Killer / Drake's Landing / vertebreaker
Pedigree / Pepsi Plunge
Tiger driver / Praying Mantis Bomb

Broken Into Pieces wrote:

The Bill wrote:

Broken Into Pieces wrote:

The Schwartz wrote:you some kind of retard?, boy

come on, the two are practically identical... the only difference, as far as I can see, is that when giving a backdrop driver you tuck your head to one side of your opponent's body... after seeing Eddie Kingston drop Sami Callihan on his own face with a botched German and bust up his own nose so badly that it needed surgery, if anything the backdrop driver looks safer overall

I heard from a Golden Retriever named Cuddles that the PERFECT 'PLEX was just a fisherman's suplex. Also, she told me that the Stone Cold Stunner, RKO, and Diamond Cutter are the same shit. It's all good, if dudes use the same moves, as long as they put some sort of personality on it. Only time I can remember two dudes using the same move at the same time would be Kane/Undertaker - Tombstone Piledriver, and Nash/Sid - Powerbomb. Oh, and almost every young guy at the end of WCW using the Super Kick.

Yeah, but those are just wrestlers having their own pet names for the move they use as their finisher. "German suplex" and "backdrop driver" are generic names for two very similar moves.

Other different-name-but-it's-the-same-thing examples, off the top of my head:
Cop Killer / Drake's Landing / vertebreaker
Pedigree / Pepsi Plunge
Tiger driver / Praying Mantis Bomb

All wrestling moves are just a slight variant of another, and the name changes by one thing being different such as the grip. What started as a belly to back from amateur wrestling becomes a german suplex if you wrap the waist, a dragon suplex if you do it from a full nelson grip, a tiger suplex if you double overhook the arms... honestly it could go on forever. The same goes for powerbombs, drivers, topés, hell everything in wrestling. The back drop driver wasn't a generic name for a universal move, it was the name given to the high angle sheer drop backdrop which only Williams was doing in that way at that time. Any move can be broken down from it's signature name into what it really is. Also, the pedigree isn't the same move as the Pepsi Plunge, as the Pepsi Plunge is done off the top rope. Though we will never see it in the WWE because HHH wouldn't allow it, and since CM Punk's WWE attire and entire offense are completely ripped off from KENTA,

and now if any more retard talk on that topic continues I may be forced to lock the thread, because I can't continue not reading any posts in this thread

So, my "sources" disclosed the finish to Summerslam, and I must admit I did not see this coming, but it makes sense if they do it old school style. PLEASE, do not open the spoiler unless you want to potentially ruin the PPV. Again, this is just me checking my sources and their legitimacy. IF you do read it, please do not ruin it for anyone because you are excited or disappointed.


OK

how did you not see that coming that's what I imagined everyone is thinking after what happened on monday

Colt Cabana isn't taking any jobs after his tryout, he is making up bullshit excuses to promoters saying oh I'll be overseas or I'll be out of town for something else. I know a promoter that has asked for his schedule after saying that so they can book him when he is free just to get no response at all after that. So obviously something has happened.

Also word is that Claudio/Hero are bypassing FCW development and making it to the show so there is your angle for a Straight Edge Army

This is the WWE though, if they get spooked they always have a plan B ready, if say dirtsheets find out the plans. Or if HHH lurks the board looking for inspiration in a sport he loves. Then we are fucked.

Also word is that Claudio/Hero are bypassing FCW development and making it to the show so there is your angle for a Straight Edge Army

I hope Claudio can pee clean.

Punk is neither a heel or face though, what exactly is he going to do that would turn him heel? There is nothing he could possibly do that would make anyone boo him. He is like Randy Orton in that respect. You have to let him do his thing because no matter what people know better.

The Schwartz wrote:Punk is neither a heel or face though, what exactly is he going to do that would turn him heel? There is nothing he could possibly do that would make anyone boo him. He is like Randy Orton in that respect. You have to let him do his thing because no matter what people know better.

Yeah, pure speculation

At this point, I should disclose my nuttiness.

the cena heel turn is necessary.

whatever happens it's going to be interesting. this situation basically writes itself.

p.s. can someone tell me what the appeal of alberto del rio is? is he supposed to be like spic flair or something?

Turd Murder wrote:

Also word is that Claudio/Hero are bypassing FCW development and making it to the show so there is your angle for a Straight Edge Army

I hope Claudio can pee clean.

Amen to that. I would love to see Claudio in WWE, but he will be half his current size if he has to cut out the juice.

So in roughly only two months time Mr. Anderson went from face to heel to face again? Oh TNA! Oh, Russo!

edit... ignore my previous posting. I meant to post this - the greatest moment in my sad, southern wrestling youth.

That took me back. Maybe a bit too far...


>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emKxRo1a ... C1A644C189<

The Bill wrote:So in roughly only two months time Mr. Anderson went from face to heel to face again? Oh TNA! Oh, Russo!

TNA is a bunch of crap. wish that company would fuckin drop dead.

BUNGVOX wrote:

The Bill wrote:So in roughly only two months time Mr. Anderson went from face to heel to face again? Oh TNA! Oh, Russo!

TNA is a bunch of crap. wish that company would fuckin drop dead.

Kurt Angle also officially switched to heel. So, that is two major dudes doing a turn in the same episode... actually Daniels came across like he was up to no good. So, is that three turns in one show?

The Bill wrote:

BUNGVOX wrote:

The Bill wrote:So in roughly only two months time Mr. Anderson went from face to heel to face again? Oh TNA! Oh, Russo!

TNA is a bunch of crap. wish that company would fuckin drop dead.

Kurt Angle also officially switched to heel. So, that is two major dudes doing a turn in the same episode... actually Daniels came across like he was up to no good. So, is that three turns in one show?

they'll all be babyfaces by the end of the week.

So, honest to goodness, I did not read the Turd Dude's spoiler because I thought it would make me really angry, and the WWE would destroy Punk because there are still so many people in the arena that drools over Cena. and I still have hope. Check out my diary which I've been writing now for a few hours randomly here and there tonight like a damn fool ( and drinking and editing as I go). Two bottles of fine wine in. My silly choice, my last true night of freedom and I decided to discuss wrestling. Fuck it, it's the thing I've watched the most these last four months. I've seen countless "shoot" interviews, old times wrasslin', Attitude WWF and n.W.o. WCW and finally ROH. Also,a bunch of proper ECW:

A heel "pretty boy" will still bring in the broads. The young kids will still love Mysterio and Sin Cara, who is interchangeable.

Hmm? I was walking around in a circle like a chooch, then some things dawned on me. Cena compared himself to Hogan, hmm? HHH said the winner will be who he want's, hmm? Cena didn't say he respected the fans only HIS fans, hmm? And he got mad at Punk for expressing his opinion, even though he used to say everyone has their own opinion, hmm? I call Cena finally goes heel Summerslam, and Punk ends up bringing some young guys to help the fight, like Cabana and the Kings of Wrestling.

And with Mysterio being the number one contender on RAW. It only makes perfect sense that heel Cena crushes him, because Mysterio is still legitimately injured. Also, who's going to be the heel against the Rock. I know I've thought too much about this. Yet, I think my isolated insanity as finally produced fruit. I'm finally in tune with McMahon.

I hope this happens, I really hope. Pipe dream. In reality I imagine Del Boreo wins it from either champ. which is not good. He needs a few more years to become some one of matter. Any one really remember Shamus' or Swagger's title runs? It was good intentions, but both dudes aren't experienced enough. Slow build, dicks. Now a days they would give the championship to Nation of Domination The Rock, which would have been a horrible idea. Slow build, dicks.

and that's why Chikara kicks ass... slow build

their main storyline in late 2010 was a direct progression from things that were happening in 2007, and arguably even earlier

on the other hand, sometimes you do get a rookie who is capable of carrying a title run; the Osirian Portal were Chikara's tag champs 13 months after debuting, and their title reign was a good'un