Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:48 pm
by FVBTVS
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:53 am
by THE KILL
Hunter wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:06 am
Just stumbled across this fact about The China Syndrome:
The March 1979 release was met with backlash from the nuclear power industry's claims of it being "sheer fiction" and a "character assassination of an entire industry". Twelve days later, the Three Mile Island nuclear accident occurred in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania.
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:12 am
by Geeheeb
"As of 2014, there have been more than 100 serious nuclear accidents and incidents from the use of nuclear power. Fifty-seven accidents or severe incidents have occurred since the Chernobyl disaster, and about 60% of all nuclear-related accidents/severe incidents have occurred in the USA."
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:28 am
by Eight Bit Alien
There's a really obscure rapper from ththe middle of PA who lived near TMI and was a small child when the incident happened. Most of his songs are about poison, fallout, toxicity or radiation. Many references to TMI. He's released about five albums a year for over two decades. Very interesting from a psychological perspective.
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:01 am
by Geeheeb
nice try cop, but I'm not listening to that
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:25 am
by Eight Bit Alien
absolutely not presenting it as a recommendation
But as a cop i will lock you up some day when i solve all the capers
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Nolan is making the press rounds saying that J. Robert Oppenheimer is “the most important person who ever lived,” so it logically follows that his film is crucial viewing and that all of his seriously considered directorial choices are also terribly important. Critics take down the information about these choices like publicists and report them faithfully to a duly impressed public — such as Nolan’s surprising decision not to show the Japanese victims of the atomic bombings. Instead, we see Oppenheimer merely imagining the effects of the bomb on members of his rapturous American audience.
But the absolute lack of physical reality given to the results of dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki — the refusal to portray mass annihilation — is one of the film’s more stunning glossing-over effects. It’s ludicrous, the idea that Oppenheimer’s imaginings, safe in the United States, of the flayed skin of a few people in his audience who are applauding his speech, and a charred body impeding his path as he takes his triumphal march away from the podium, is somehow “more effective and chilling.”
Not showing in any memorable or realistic way the ghastly consequences of Oppenheimer’s biggest achievement is a safe-playing strategy, once again, to preserve audience sympathy for the hero, which you generally need if you want a big blockbuster hit. And Christopher Nolan always wants a big blockbuster hit.
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:08 pm
by featherboa
i read stella maris already so
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:29 pm
by FVBTVS
every good imax or 70 mm screening of this has been sold out in my movie neighborhood
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:19 pm
by Necrometer
yeah I might go in mid-august
the reviews make it seem like I will be cranky (beyond the politics) but I like science and boobs so
spacehamster wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:15 amBut yeah, whatever, waah waah tree huggers. I'm just glad I don't have kids.
this is a tree-hugging thread by tree-hugging me!
antinatalism becomes more and more of an ethical mandate each year
I understand why people might still have kids - it feels good! - but it's basically indefensible at this point. same thing with veganism - you don't need to be a vegan, but you gotta acknowledge that you're not the best person you could be.
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:23 pm
by FVBTVS
i'm not an antinatalist but i understand
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:23 pm
by Eight Bit Alien
just go see Barbie, old friend
If that's where your own best thinking got you
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:47 pm
by cxwx
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:00 pm
by Necrometer
my barbie ticket is secured
my oppenwasser ticket is not ... yet
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:04 pm
by Necrometer
FVBTVS wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:23 pmbut i understand
I don't think I'd seen that
I was grooving on the bit
but then I remembered
nicole was his ex-wife
that's some insane territorialism
which I guess makes it funny
you gon hafta die
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:06 pm
by Necrometer
half the comments are referencing the will smith slap
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:09 pm
by cxwx
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:44 am
by Hunter
cxwx wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:09 pm
Prager U w/ Manhattan institute guy
Man, these right wing chuds can't help but insert a jab at Obama at any possible opportunity, right? I mean sure, Obama sucked... but this is supposed to be an educational video for schools or whatever, right?
It seems especially sinister considering people might think there's some sort of connection between the Manhattan Project and the Manhattan institute, considering the subject matter. The Manhattan Institute is a right wing think tank where the CRT and Trans agenda propaganda originated, spearheaded by Chris Rufo. I have to imagine that there's some corporate interest behind the message of this video.
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
cxwx wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:09 pm
Prager U w/ Manhattan institute guy
Man, these right wing chuds can't help but insert a jab at Obama at any possible opportunity, right? I mean sure, Obama sucked... but this is supposed to be an educational video for schools or whatever, right?
It seems especially sinister considering people might think there's some sort of connection between the Manhattan Project and the Manhattan institute, considering the subject matter. The Manhattan Institute is a right wing think tank where the CRT and Trans agenda propaganda originated, spearheaded by Chris Rufo. I have to imagine that there's some corporate interest behind the message of this video.
Not to derail the thread but the fact that some schools are actually using prageru vids is pretty disgusting. Supposedly some for profit prisons and half way houses for drug addicts force people to watch this shit.
Let's play a game with this one and see if we can spot the verbal trick/lie through omission that is going on here:
Re: am I a bad hippie pacifist if I pay money to see the oppenheimer moviemove
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:31 am
by Brutus Frank
Necrometer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:19 pm
antinatalism becomes more and more of an ethical mandate each year
I understand why people might still have kids - it feels good! - but it's basically indefensible at this point. same thing with veganism - you don't need to be a vegan, but you gotta acknowledge that you're not the best person you could be.